Re: Unable to connect to my wireless laptop

SUCCESS
It was a problem with Norton Internet Security setting on the laptop. I
disabled it and everything works just fine. Many thanks for sticking with
me, that was a long hard road.

Jim

"Jim" <jrwolfe@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Success, almost

All computers now have internet access and all hardwired computers can
communicate with each other. The only remaining problem is that I'm unable
to communicate with the wireless (Jim). Here is the ipconfig of the main
and laptop computers. Thanks again

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : athlon3000
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : hsd1.pa.comcast.net.

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 4:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : hsd1.pa.comcast.net.
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Linksys LNE100TX Fast Ethernet
Adapter(LNE100TX v4)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0C-41-26-24-4C
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.105
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 68.87.75.194
68.87.64.146
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Saturday, November 11, 2006
3:39:57 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, November 12, 2006
3:39:57 PM


Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Jim
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : Belkin

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection 2:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Belkin
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-A5-C4-72-F0
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.3
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1
68.87.75.194
68.87.64.146
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, November 09, 2006
9:57:43 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, January 18, 2038
10:14:07 PM




"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 08:55:17 -0500, "Jim" <jrwolfe@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 21:25:28 -0500, "Jim" <jrwolfe@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Jim" <jrwolfe@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Chuck,
Yes, Jim is the laptop and the WiFi router is 192.168.2.1. Athlon3000
connects to the WiFi router and another cable connects back to the
other
router.

After following your steps 1 through 8 listed below, I discovered
that I
could no longer connect to the internet on either Jim nor Athlon3000.
Both
systems failed while trying to renew their IP addresses. Reset the
WiFi
router back to 192.168.2.1 and both computers connect to the
internet.

1) Connect Athlon3000, by Ethernet (don't do this by WiFi), directly
to
a
LAN
port on the WiFi router. If there is any cable between the two
routers,
remove
that cable at both ends.
2) From the browser on Athlon3000, connect to 192.168.2.1.
3) Logon to the WiFi router.
4) Change its LAN address (manually) to 192.168.1.250.
5) Disable its DHCP server.
6) Connect an Ethernet cable, from a LAN port on the WiFi router, to
a
LAN
port
on the current router.
7) Reboot Jim. Test the changes first. Make sure that Jim can
connect
to
the
Internet.
8) Reboot Athlon3000. Make sure that Athlon3000 can connect to the
Internet.
9) From Athlon3000, logon, from the browser, to 192.168.1.250.
Enable
and
test
security settings (recommend WPA) on Jim. Note you'll be restarting
Jim
a
few
times, which is why you must do this from Athlon3000, using Ethernet.



"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2006 06:45:01 -0500, "Jim" <jrwolfe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 14:02:37 -0500, "Jim" <jrwolfe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 08:00:22 -0500, "Jim" <jrwolfe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I running several XP Pro computers on a wired LAN. Just
purchased a
laptop
which I initially added to LAN.

I decided I didn't want a hardwired connection to my laptop so I
added a
wireless router to my system. My laptop can access the internet
through
the
wireless router but it can't access any of my other LAN
computers.

Need help please.

Jim,

You need to use the WiFi router as a WiFi AP, not a router, and
keep
the
same
subnet for the laptop.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-on-lan-with-two-routers.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-on-lan-with-two-routers.html

Many thanks for the info but I need more help. I have a little
experience
in
networking but I'm far from an expert.

This is my setup. I go from my main computer to my new wireless
router.
Out
of the wireless router I go back to my original router - is that
the
correct
setup??

I've tried the procedure below (as best as I understand it) with
no
success.

My currect situation is this:
Can access the internet on both the 2 wired desktop systems as
well
as
my
wireless laptop
Can no longer access any of my networked computers
IP addresses on both desktop systems are out of range (192.168.2.2
and
192.168.1.103)
but IP addresses on main desktop and laptop are in range.

Note: Once I turn off DHCP on the wireless router (step 3 below)
and
reboot
routers I have problems.

TIA
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Using a PC wired into the current router, unplug it from the
wired
connection and plug into a LAN port on the secondary router.
Access
the
secondary router using your browser via its default LAN IP address
and
default password. Since the PC was attached to the previous router
you
will
have tell the PC to obtain a LAN IP from the new device. Use
'winipcfg'
in
win9x or 'ipconfig release/renew' with W2K/XP on the PC.

2. On the secondary router (hereafter called the AP)

a. change the default password to a minimum combination of 8
letters/numbers/symbols.

b. Change the ESSID to a unique name and make all the necessary
wireless
configurations.

3. Then, in the AP, go to the LAN setup page:

a. Turn DHCP serving OFF.

b. Change the LAN IP of the AP from its default so that it lies
within
the
subnet of the primary router but preferably outside the dynamic
LAN
IP
range
of the primary router. (examples below)

c. Disable or turn RIP off, if there is that option.

d. Disable or turn off Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) support (if
any).

4. Plug the PC back into the wired connection and repeat the
process
of
getting new LAN IP. A reboot of the PC may be needed.

5. Plug the AP into the router, LAN port TO LAN port directly or
via
switch/patch panel etc.

6. It may be necessary to reboot one or both routers but one
should
be
able
to assign LANIPs wirelessly and connect at this point, ensuring
wifi
card
setup properly.

OK, let's diagnose your problem. Look at "browstat status" and
"ipconfig
/all",
from each computer. Read this article, and linked articles, and
follow
instructions precisely (download browstat!):
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp

The key here is router LAN to AP LAN. And no DHCP on the AP.

Be generous. Provide diagnostic data for each computer, and don't
edit
the
content. The diagnosis may be in the details.

Here is ipconfig info from each computer. The first listing is from
the
main
computer, the last listing is from my laptop.

Jim,

Athlon3000 and Jim are getting DHCP settings from 192.168.2.1;
Dell2000
is
getting settings from 192.168.1.1. One of those is the WiFi router.
If
Jim is
the laptop, the WiFi router is 192.168.2.1.

You need to:
1) Connect Athlon3000, by Ethernet (don't do this by WiFi), directly
to
a
LAN
port on the WiFi router. If there is any cable between the two
routers,
remove
that cable at both ends.
2) From the browser on Athlon3000, connect to 192.168.2.1.
3) Logon to the WiFi router.
4) Change its LAN address (manually) to 192.168.1.250.
5) Disable its DHCP server.
6) Connect an Ethernet cable, from a LAN port on the WiFi router, to
a
LAN port
on the current router.
7) Reboot Jim. Test the changes first. Make sure that Jim can
connect
to the
Internet.
8) Reboot Athlon3000. Make sure that Athlon3000 can connect to the
Internet.
9) From Athlon3000, logon, from the browser, to 192.168.1.250.
Enable
and test
security settings (recommend WPA) on Jim. Note you'll be restarting
Jim
a few
times, which is why you must do this from Athlon3000, using
Ethernet.

Read this thru and ask questions before starting please.

I'm about ready to throw in the towel attempting to add a Wireless
Router
to
my wired network.

I'm totally confused - why do I see an IP address of 192.168.1.250
(your
suggestion) when I view the WiFi router from the laptop (Jim) and a
different address (192.168.2.1) when viewed from the Athlon3000?

I don't know Jim. Let's try again. Describe, as completely as
possible,
how
everything connects right now. Then, reboot each computer, run
"ipconfig
/all"
and post the logs. And don't make any changes after running "ipconfig
/all".

And try and post after my posts please.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting

Chuck,
I few questions before I proceed anymore.

I connect the LAN cable from my main Athlon3000 computer to LAN #1 port
on
the WiFi router. Should I then use the WAN port or LAN #2 port on this
router to connect back to a LAN port my original router (I've tried both
ports but I'm not certain which I should use.)

As instructed, I change the IP address on the WiFi router from its
default
address of 192.168.2.1 to 192.168.1.250 and turn off DHCP. Once I do
that, I
can no longer access this router @ 192.168.1.250. I don't understand this
and the only way I can back to the router is by resetting it, which is
sometimes difficult.

I then reboot the Athlon3000 and sometimes the router. ipconfig still
shows
the PC has an IP address of 192.168.2.1 so obviously I can't connect to
the
internet. At this point must I change the tcp/ip settings from automatic
to
manual and if so, what settings do I use?

Again, thanks for your help

Jim,

OK, asking questions is good.

To use a WiFi router as a WiFi AP (ie, a "bridge"), you connect
everything thru
the LAN. The WAN sends the network traffic thru the router; by
connecting thru
the LAN, you just use it as a switch with a radio, aka an Access Point.

If the LAN is setup as 192.168.1.250, and connected to the main (only)
router
LAN, and if each computer is attached to a LAN port on either (or by
WiFi), and
DHCP is disabled on the WiFi AP, each computer gets an address on
192.168.1.x.
Everything on 192.168.1.x, if cabled properly, will be able to connect.

1) Enable the DHCP server on the router.
2) Make sure each computer has DHCP client enabled (automatic settings).
3) Disable the DHCP server on the WiFi AP.
4) Change the WiFi AP to an address on the router LAN, such as
192.168.1.250.
5) Connect the router and AP - LAN to LAN.
6) Restart each computer.
7) Each computer will get settings from the router, where your Internet
comes
from.

You have to do steps 3 and 4 using a computer wired directly to the AP,
and in
that sequence. When you do step 4, you lose connectivity with the AP;
you
regain connectivity after step 6.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.




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