Re: Networking only works "one way"

On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:54:22 GMT, JClark <jclark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 13:25:23 -0700, Chuck <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:07:15 GMT, JClark <jclark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 08:07:11 -0700, Chuck <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 20:47:46 GMT, JClark <jclark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 10:09:22 -0700, Chuck <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 22:26:47 GMT, JClark <jclark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello Group:

I have a networking problem I've been working on for about a week,
without success. I've read through Chuck's amazingly comprehensive
website, but I'm a little overwhelmed. Let me state my problem
as simply as I can, and I'll request and gratefully accept suggestions
about pinning down the problem.

The System:
Three computers networked through Linksys router.
Static IP address.
Router addresses for computers:
A - 192.168.1.150
B - 192.168.1.151
C - 192.168.1.152
All have Win XP Pro/ SP2
All have simple file sharing enabled.
All have same account name and login ID.
All belong to "workgroup"

The Problem:
All three computers can access the internet.
"A" can view and open shared folders on "B" and "C"
"B" and "C" can view and open shared folders on each other.
"B" and "C" can view shared folders on "A". BUT the shared folders on
"A" cannot be opened, and files cannot be veiwed. There is no error
message. You click on the folder, the hourglass appears for a few
seconds and then disappears.

What I have tried so far:
Software firewalls all have rules to permit access to each other on
ports 135-139. Logs show that incoming and outgoing TCP connections
are going through.
I've tried disabling all firewalls and antivirus programs.
All computers have identical setups in TCP/IP and advanced.
Linksys router settings have been gone over carefully and seem to be
correct.
Network setup wizard has been run on all three computers. (It enables
Windows firewall, which I have then disabled.)
Cable modem and router have been reset.
Motherboard (ASUS A8N-SLI) on computer "A" has onboard LAN with Nvidia
nForce controller, but I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it without
installing the firewall component and have not enabled the Armor On
feature.

My take: Something is preventing sharing of folders on "A" since they
can be seen by but not opened by "B" and "C"

Does anyone have any suggestions about how to make this sharing a
"two-way" street?

Many thanks.

Jack

Jack,

Well, the "amazingly comprehensive" website only got that way from questions
like yours. Maybe you have something new here - let's see.

How about we start with "browstat status" from each computer. Maybe there's a
detail there that will give a clue.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
Hi Chuck,
Thanks for your interest. Here are the results of the "browstat
status" from each computer. I also have results of "ipconfig /all" and
"net config server" for each one, as suggested on your site. But to
avoid clutter, I'll post just the "browstat status", as you requested.
Much appreciation!
Jack
***************************************************************************************
Computer "A" (AMD64)

Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{761B3B7A-475C-4B27-82C8-BF09738AB7F6}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: ASUS-AMD
Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to determine
build of browser master: 5
\\\\ASUS-AMD . Version:05.01 Flags: 51003 NT POTENTIAL
MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master ASUS-AMD
\\ASUS-AMD
There are 3 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{761B3B7A-475C-4B27-82C8-BF09738AB7F6}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{761B3B7A-475C-4B27-82C8-BF09738AB7F6}
**************************************************************************************
Computer "B" (ASUS-AMD)

Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{8CD7E588-9C98-4987-96B1-1EAAE0359F75}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: AMD64
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine
build of browser master: 53
\\\\AMD64 . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL
MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master AMD64
\\AMD64
There are 3 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{8CD7E588-9C98-4987-96B1-1EAAE0359F75}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{8CD7E588-9C98-4987-96B1-1EAAE0359F75}
*****************************************************************************************
Computer "C" (MBX-notebook)

Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C33CF1D9-D7A5-43EA-AF9B-4E6E1B28B1D5}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: AMD64
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine
build of browser master: 53
\\\\AMD64 . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL
MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master AMD64
\\AMD64
There are 3 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C33CF1D9-D7A5-43EA-AF9B-4E6E1B28B1D5}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C33CF1D9-D7A5-43EA-AF9B-4E6E1B28B1D5}
******************************************************************************************

OK, Jack,

Interesting. To start, look at AMD64 and ASUS-AMD.
Computer "A" (AMD64)

Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{761B3B7A-475C-4B27-82C8-BF09738AB7F6}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: ASUS-AMD
Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to determine
build of browser master: 5

Computer "B" (ASUS-AMD)

Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{8CD7E588-9C98-4987-96B1-1EAAE0359F75}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: AMD64
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine
build of browser master: 53

AMD64 and ASUS-AMD see each other as master browsers. Are both of them desktop
units?
# Shut off the browser service on MBX-notebook.
# Power all 3 computers off.
# Decide which computer you want to reliably be the master browser. Power that
computer on.
# As soon as the master browser computer is online, power the other desktop
computer on.
# Power the laptop on.

Now the good news is that all 3 computers see each other ("There are 3 servers
in domain WORKGROUP" and there's only one workgroup segment "There are 1 domains
in domain WORKGROUP"). The error 53 against AMD64, and the error 5 against
ASUS-AMD, though, may be a challenge.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html#Error53>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html#Error53
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html#Error5>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html#Error5
Chuck:
Here are the browstat results for the three computers, with AMD64 and
ASUS-AMD running the computer browser service, and disabled on
mbx-notebook.
An aside: I notice when I run browstat on the second desktop
(ASUS-AMD), my firewall tells me "Windows browser service is trying to
access the internet. Destination IP: 149.174.36.116:DNS. If I don't
allow it, browstat doesn't complete.
I'm not sure what this means ... DNS not accessible from that computer
only?
Anyway, here's browstat for the three computers:
Now I'll go look at your references for error 53.

Appreciate your help greatly

Jack
**********************************************************************************************
AMD64 (now recognized as master browser!) I didn't suspect the order
of turning on the computers was important.


Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{761B3B7A-475C-4B27-82C8-BF09738AB7F6}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: AMD64
Master browser is running build 2600
1 backup servers retrieved from master AMD64
\\AMD64
There are 3 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{761B3B7A-475C-4B27-82C8-BF09738AB7F6}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{761B3B7A-475C-4B27-82C8-BF09738AB7F6}
****************************************************************************************************
ASUS-AMD


Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{8CD7E588-9C98-4987-96B1-1EAAE0359F75}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: AMD64
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine
build of browser master: 53
\\\\AMD64 . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL
MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master AMD64
\\AMD64
There are 3 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{8CD7E588-9C98-4987-96B1-1EAAE0359F75}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{8CD7E588-9C98-4987-96B1-1EAAE0359F75}
******************************************************************************************************
MBX-Notebook


Status for domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C33CF1D9-D7A5-43EA-AF9B-4E6E1B28B1D5}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: AMD64
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine
build of browser master: 53
\\\\AMD64 . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL
MASTER
1 backup servers retrieved from master AMD64
\\AMD64
There are 3 servers in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C33CF1D9-D7A5-43EA-AF9B-4E6E1B28B1D5}
There are 1 domains in domain WORKGROUP on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{C33CF1D9-D7A5-43EA-AF9B-4E6E1B28B1D5}

Jack,

The master browser election is an intriguing process. Generally, one computer
should be elected as master browser, and that's it. One of the criteria for
election is "was previously a master browser". So if there's another election,
both computers may continue electing themselves, unless you start one without
the other being up. That one gets elected, and when the second and third
restart, they both recognise the first.

Now the error = 53, and "(ASUS-AMD), my firewall tells me "Windows browser
service is trying to access the internet. Destination IP: 149.174.36.116:DNS.""
Let's look at "ipconfig /all" now, on all computers.
Hello Chuck. The ipconfig /all output for the three computers follows.
Meanwhile, I've put computer names and ip addresses into the hosts
file on all computers. I am now able to ping all computers back and
forth both with ip addresses and computer names.
Many thanks again.
Jack
********************************************************************************************
AMD64

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : AMD64
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection :
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking
Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-D8-70-4A-01
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.150
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 65.32.1.65
65.32.1.70
*************************************************************************
ASUS-AMD

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : asus-amd
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink XL 10/100
PCI TX NIC (3C905B-TX)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-04-76-E3-76-AD
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.151
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 65.32.1.65
65.32.1.70
*****************************************************************************
MBX-Notebook

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : MBX-NOTEBOOK
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Wireless Network Connection:
Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless
2200BG Network Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0E-35-E4-82-74

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit
Ethernet
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-D8-25-65-2C
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.152
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 65.32.1.65
65.32.1.70
*****************************************************************************

Hi Jack,

OK, here's a problem.

Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : AMD64

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection :
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce Networking
Controller
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/02/hidden-personal-firewall-nvidia-nforce.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/02/hidden-personal-firewall-nvidia-nforce.html

Now you said earlier
Motherboard (ASUS A8N-SLI) on computer "A" has onboard LAN with Nvidia
nForce controller, but I've uninstalled it and reinstalled it without
installing the firewall component and have not enabled the Armor On
feature.

But you did install the driver (or it wouldn't work). Do us both a favour, and
enumerate the LSP / Winsock. Let's not try any LSP fixes just yet, but see what
you have, OK?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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