Re: Can?t see a computer in the network

On Mon, 22 May 2006 22:36:01 -0700, MetalGearSolid
<MetalGearSolid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Chuck" escribió:

On Mon, 22 May 2006 21:39:02 -0700, MetalGearSolid
<MetalGearSolid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Chuck" escribió:

On Mon, 22 May 2006 19:18:02 -0700, MetalGearSolid
<MetalGearSolid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Thanks Chuck!... I made sure that all services and components needed are OK
on Computer A (good one) and Computer B (bad one)? I can?t make NetBT run on
computer B, going via Windows the Enable NetBios over TCP-IP checkbox is
?checked? but going through the command windows it is disabled ("ipconfig
/all")? I downloaded the PSTools and here?s the cpsserv.txt for each computer?

Computer A (good one LEVC)
Start CPSServ V1.02 - LEVC

Find Computer Browser ("browser")
Checking \\LEVC... Found browser on:
\\LEVC


Find TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper ("lmhosts")
Checking \\LEVC... Found lmhosts on:
\\LEVC


Find Remote Registry ("remoteregistry")
Checking \\LEVC... Found remoteregistry on:
\\LEVC


Find Server ("server")
Checking \\LEVC... No active service named server found.


Find WF / ICS ("sharedaccess")
Checking \\LEVC... No active service named sharedaccess found.


Find Workstation ("workstation")
Checking \\LEVC... No active service named workstation found.

End CPSServ V1.02 ? LEVC



Computer B (bad one AJVC)
Start CPSServ V1.02 - AJVC

Find Computer Browser ("browser")
No active service named browser found.


Find TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper ("lmhosts")
No active service named lmhosts found.


Find Remote Registry ("remoteregistry")
No active service named remoteregistry found.


Find Server ("server")
No active service named server found.


Find WF / ICS ("sharedaccess")
No active service named sharedaccess found.


Find Workstation ("workstation")
No active service named workstation found.

End CPSServ V1.02 - AJVC


I?ll look for your answer, thanks again!

Please don't top post, especially when you have a signature with delimiter line.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting

So Levc is not running "server", "sharedaccess", OR "workstation"? And you say
Levc is the GOOD computer?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#Components>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#Components

Most computers in a workgroup will be running as both a client and as a server.
All computers using Windows Networking should have:
* "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)", in the network items list in Local Area
Connection - Properties.
* "NetBIOS Over TCP/IP" Enabled, in TCP/IP Properties - Advanced - WINS.
* "TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper" service running - Started and Automatic.
* "Windows Firewall / Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)" service (for SP2
systems), or "Internet Connection Firewall / Internet Connection Sharing (ICS)"
service (for pre-SP2 systems) running - Started and Automatic.

Any computer accessing shared data runs as a client. All clients using Windows
Networking should have:
* "Client for Microsoft Networks", in the network items list in Local Area
Connection - Properties.
* "Workstation" service running - Started and Automatic.

Any computer providing shared data runs as a server. All servers using Windows
Networking should have:
* "File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks", in the network items
list in Local Area Connection - Properties.
* "Server" service running - Started and Automatic.

So let's start by figuring out why Levc isn't running "server", "sharedaccess",
OR "workstation". Once you're experienced with that, then do the same for Ajvc.
Oh yes, you do have connectivity between each computer and the other?

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

Chuck?

Thanks for the advice on bottom posting? Now, regarding the third computer,
it?s a laptop I use at the office, sorry I left it there but let?s make this
two desktops work first OK?

Working with LEVC, I checked the services running using CONTROL PANEL ?
ADMINISTRATIVE TOOLS ? SERVICES and all services are running, Browser, Shared
Access, Workstation and Server. I double checked the services running with SC
CONFIG and Browser and Sharedaccess are RUNNING. Ran NET CONFIG SERVER and
WORKSTATION and here are the results?

NET CONFIG SERVER
Nombre de servidor \\LEVC
Comentario del servidor Desktop Leito

Versi¢n del programa Windows 2002
Servidor activo en
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{E04F32BD-C49D-47B7-A511-7A5A9414C217} (00138f45efe4)


Servidor oculto No
N§ m ximo de sesiones abiertas 10
N§ m ximo de archivos abiertos por sesi¢n 16384

Tiempo de inactividad de sesi¢n (min.) 15
Se ha completado el comando correctamente.

NET CONFIG WORKSTATION
Nombre del equipo \\LEVC
Nombre completo de equipo LEVC
Nombre de usuario A

Estaci¢n de trabajo activa en
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{E04F32BD-C49D-47B7-A511-7A5A9414C217} (00138F45EFE4)

Versi¢n del programa Windows 2002

Dominio de estaci¢n de trabajo WORKGROUP
Nombre DNS de dominio de la estaci¢n de trabajo (null)
Dominio de inicio de sesi¢n LEVC

Tiempo de espera de COM (s) 0
Cuenta de env¡o de COM (bytes) 16
Tiempo de env¡o en COM (ms.) 250
Se ha completado el comando correctamente.

But the CPSServ shows no activity at SERVER or WORKSTATION as shown in the
following CPSSERV.TXT?
Start CPSServ V1.02 - LEVC

Find Computer Browser ("browser")
Checking \\LEVC... Found browser on:
\\LEVC


Find TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper ("lmhosts")
Checking \\LEVC... Found lmhosts on:
\\LEVC


Find Remote Registry ("remoteregistry")
Checking \\LEVC... Found remoteregistry on:
\\LEVC


Find Server ("server")
Checking \\LEVC... No active service named server found.


Find WF / ICS ("sharedaccess")
Checking \\LEVC... Found sharedaccess on:
\\LEVC


Find Workstation ("workstation")
Checking \\LEVC... No active service named workstation found.

End CPSServ V1.02 ? LEVC

Well, until we start seeing one other computer show up in the CPSServ log for
any computer, we can wait for the third. No sweat.

But we have to figure out the server and workstation bit. We can see
"sharedaccess" above. So here's what you said.
Working with LEVC, I checked the services running using CONTROL PANEL ?
ADMINISTRATIVE TOOLS ? SERVICES and all services are running, Browser, Shared
Access, Workstation and Server. I double checked the services running with SC
CONFIG and Browser and Sharedaccess are RUNNING.
# I checked the services running using CONTROL PANEL ? ADMINISTRATIVE TOOLS ?
SERVICES and all services are running, Browser, Shared Access, Workstation and
Server.
# I double checked the services running with SC CONFIG and Browser and
Sharedaccess are RUNNING.

What's wrong with the picture here? What did SC show for Workstation and
Server? That's a major discrepancy.

Is the 2Wire running in Bridge mode, or Router mode (NAT off or on?)? What's
with the IP addresses (199.20.1.41 and 199.20.1.42)? Those are NOT private
addresses!
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1918.html

Are you paying for ONE public address, or TWO?

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.


Chuck:

At LEVC I go to CONTROL PANEL - ADMINISTRATIVE TOOLS - SERVICES and checked
the status of the following services...
BROWSER
WORKSTATION
SHAREDACCESS (ICS/FIREWALL)
SERVER
NetBios OVER TCP-IP Help
All of them showed RUNNING, AUTOMATIC

SC QUERY BROWSER shows
SERVICE_NAME: browser
TYPE : 20 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
STATE : 4 RUNNING
(NOT_STOPPABLE,NOT_PAUSABLE,IGNORES_SHUTDOWN)
WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 0x0 (0x0)
SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0x0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0

SC QUERY SHAREDACCESS shows
SERVICE_NAME: sharedaccess
TYPE : 20 WIN32_SHARE_PROCESS
STATE : 4 RUNNING
(NOT_STOPPABLE,NOT_PAUSABLE,IGNORES_SHUTDOWN)
WIN32_EXIT_CODE : 0x0 (0x0)
SERVICE_EXIT_CODE : 0x0 (0x0)
CHECKPOINT : 0x0
WAIT_HINT : 0x0

and, as I wrote before...
NET CONFIG SERVER
Nombre de servidor \\LEVC
Comentario del servidor Desktop Leito

Versi¢n del programa Windows 2002
Servidor activo en
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{E04F32BD-C49D-47B7-A511-7A5A9414C217} (00138f45efe4)


Servidor oculto No
N§ m ximo de sesiones abiertas 10
N§ m ximo de archivos abiertos por sesi¢n 16384

Tiempo de inactividad de sesi¢n (min.) 15
Se ha completado el comando correctamente.

NET CONFIG WORKSTATION
Nombre del equipo \\LEVC
Nombre completo de equipo LEVC
Nombre de usuario A

Estaci¢n de trabajo activa en
NetbiosSmb (000000000000)
NetBT_Tcpip_{E04F32BD-C49D-47B7-A511-7A5A9414C217} (00138F45EFE4)

Versi¢n del programa Windows 2002

Dominio de estaci¢n de trabajo WORKGROUP
Nombre DNS de dominio de la estaci¢n de trabajo (null)
Dominio de inicio de sesi¢n LEVC

Tiempo de espera de COM (s) 0
Cuenta de env¡o de COM (bytes) 16
Tiempo de env¡o en COM (ms.) 250
Se ha completado el comando correctamente.

But the CPSServ shows no activity at SERVER or WORKSTATION as shown in the
following CPSSERV.TXT?
Start CPSServ V1.02 - LEVC

Find Computer Browser ("browser")
Checking \\LEVC... Found browser on:
\\LEVC


Find TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper ("lmhosts")
Checking \\LEVC... Found lmhosts on:
\\LEVC


Find Remote Registry ("remoteregistry")
Checking \\LEVC... Found remoteregistry on:
\\LEVC


Find Server ("server")
Checking \\LEVC... No active service named server found.


Find WF / ICS ("sharedaccess")
Checking \\LEVC... Found sharedaccess on:
\\LEVC


Find Workstation ("workstation")
Checking \\LEVC... No active service named workstation found.

End CPSServ V1.02 ? LEVC

The other computer (AJVC) shows at the SERVICES screen (ADMINISTRATIVE
TOOLS) the same, all services RUNNING and AUTOMATIC (browser, workstation,
shared access and server) and...

NET CONFIG SERVER
Nombre de servidor \\AJVC
Comentario del servidor Desktop Tonito

Versi¢n del programa Windows 2002
Servidor activo en


Servidor oculto No
N§ m ximo de sesiones abiertas 10
N§ m ximo de archivos abiertos por sesi¢n 16384

Tiempo de inactividad de sesi¢n (min.) 15
Se ha completado el comando correctamente.

NET CONFIG WORKSTATION
Nombre del equipo \\AJVC
Nombre completo de equipo AJVC
Nombre de usuario A

Estaci¢n de trabajo activa en

Versi¢n del programa Windows 2002

Dominio de estaci¢n de trabajo WORKGROUP
Nombre DNS de dominio de la estaci¢n de trabajo (null)
Dominio de inicio de sesi¢n AJVC

Tiempo de espera de COM (s) 0
Cuenta de env¡o de COM (bytes) 16
Tiempo de env¡o en COM (ms.) 250
Se ha completado el comando correctamente.

And the CPSSERV.TXT file shows?
Start CPSServ V1.02 - AJVC

Find Computer Browser ("browser")
No active service named browser found.


Find TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper ("lmhosts")
No active service named lmhosts found.


Find Remote Registry ("remoteregistry")
No active service named remoteregistry found.


Find Server ("server")
No active service named server found.


Find WF / ICS ("sharedaccess")
No active service named sharedaccess found.


Find Workstation ("workstation")
No active service named workstation found.

I?m a little desperate now, services show RUNNING but CPSSERV don?t find
SOME or ALL of them in my computers? What should I do?

The 2wire is running in Router Mode, public addresses 172.16.1.41 for LEVC
and 172.16.1.42 for AJVC. I?m paying for only one Internet Access and with
the 2wire Router you are supposed to do Networking through the router. It
worked fine with my old (win 98) and long gone (sold) computers.

Thanks!

OK, if you're running both computers as NAT clients, why do you have two public
addresses? If the 2Wire is running as a NAT router, you should have ONE public
address, and any number of private addresses (note the normal private address
ranges!):
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1918.html

If you can run the 2Wire as a NAT router, then run the Network Setup Wizard on
both computers, and select
This computer connects to the Internet through another computer on my network or
through a residential gateway.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#NATClient>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#NATClient
The 2Wire should be a residential gateway. Then rerun CPSServ on each.

But you should be able to run "SC query server" and "SC query workstation" too,
even now. Why do you keep ignoring that?

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
.

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