Re: Changing Node Type

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 18:31:02 -0700, MNM <MNM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



"Chuck" wrote:

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:25:01 -0700, MNM <MNM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:19:01 -0700, MNM <MNM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"MNM" wrote:

Give me a few days to get the time to run the programs and gather the info.

Thanks a whole bunch Chuck.

I feel I must reiterate an important point. The two computers can only
communucate when the ADSL modem is powered up. Everything, computers and
modem, is connected to the hub.

Also, under the network setup wizard I chose OTHER in the "Select Connection
Method" screen. On the next I chose, "This computer connects to the Internet
directly or through a network hub..." This was done on both machines.

I do remember during the intall of XP Pro (desktop w/ Unknown Node Type) I
beleive I answered NO to a question relateing to DHCP. And, some networking
compocomponents are not intsalled as well.

MNM

What make and model modem are we talking about?

Details might be very useful here. The question that you answered, and the
missing network components, are very likely at least part of the problem. The
diagnostics that I requested will provide some good clues.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html

There are two states in which I gathered the information. State 1 is with
the ADSL unpowered, and state 2 with it powered up. I also included a ping
test for each state since there was something very interesting I found in
State 1, the laptop could ping the desktop but not vice versa.

The desktop is running XP Pro Ver 2002, SP 2 (English Lang. OS)
The laptop is running XP Home Ver 2002, SP2 (Japanese Lang. OS)
The ADSL modem is an NEC- Aterm DR207C (Japanese Market)
[Yes, I currently reside in Japan.]

I. No ADSL
A. Desktop
1. IP Config/all
2. Browstat
3. Ping
B. Laptop
1. IP Config/all
2. Browstat
3. Ping
II. With ADSL
A. Desktop
1. IP Config/all
2. Browstat
3. Ping
B. Laptop
1. IP Config/all
2. Browstat
3. Ping

I.A.1
Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : M

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Mark's Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink 10/100 PCI NIC
(3C905-TX)

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-60-08-16-B7-30

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.27.194

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

I.A.2
Status for domain UCHI on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{83E1E4BC-21BE-4765-BEC7-45823D15EE33}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: M
Could not connect to registry, error = 5 Unable to determine build of
browser master: 5
Unable to determine server information for browser master: 5
1 backup servers retrieved from master M
\\M
Unable to retrieve server list from M : 2351

I.A.3
Pinging 169.254.1.26 with 32 bytes of data:



Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.



Ping statistics for 169.254.1.26:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

I.B.1
Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : R

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Rumi's Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
Connection

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-39-F1-10-C4

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.1.26

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

I.B.2
Status for domain UCHI on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1A1696A7-23BE-4059-B7F1-E47D3DFD0DBB}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.

I.B.3
Pinging 169.254.27.194 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 169.254.27.194: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 169.254.27.194: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 169.254.27.194: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 169.254.27.194: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 169.254.27.194:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

II.A.1
Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : M

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Mark's Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink 10/100 PCI NIC
(3C905-TX)

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-60-08-16-B7-30

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, April 11, 2006 20:42:52

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 12, 2006 20:42:52

II.A.2
Status for domain UCHI on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{83E1E4BC-21BE-4765-BEC7-45823D15EE33}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: M
Could not connect to registry, error = 5 Unable to determine build of
browser master: 5
Unable to determine server information for browser master: 5
1 backup servers retrieved from master M
\\M
Unable to retrieve server list from M : 2351

II.A.3
Pinging r [192.168.0.6] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.0.6: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.0.6: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.0.6: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.0.6: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.0.6:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

II.B.1
Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : R

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid


[SNIP]
"Did you take the "ipconfig /all" and "ping x" at the same time?"

I don't think I did them in the same session. I did check to make sure the
IP addresses were matching w/ ZoneAlarm before the ping.

{Now I know I can set a range to make life easier. I feared some else might
hack into the network through one of the other addresses.}

[SNIP]
"And concentrate on the two computers while powered up and connected."

They communicate and share files/printers just fine when the ADSL is powered
up. Since starting down this path, I wonder if the time and effort are worth
it. I wanted to have the two computers communicate with out the ADSL just as
before (Desktop had Windows 2000 Pro). I think that XP, regardless of the
flavor, will not let this happen. I reouted the ADSL power adapter to the
power strip to make life easier. Now, it powers up with everything else.

So Chuck, Do you think I should be happy with what I have (live with just
having the ADSL running with everything else)?

Mark

Mark,

I have to admit, I'm a bit curious about what you had earlier, when they would
communicate without the modem being powered up. It's pretty basic - if you have
computers connected thru a powered hub (switch / NAT router), and the power is
cut, you're not going to have any communication. In fact, one of the advantages
of using a hub is supposed to be a central point where you can terminate all
communication, as desired, without having to spend time unplugging cables. Just
cut the power.

I think you should accept reality. Communication requires electricity. If you
have communication, be thankful.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
.

Relevant Pages

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    (microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web)
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