Re: Changing Node Type

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:25:01 -0700, MNM <MNM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Chuck" wrote:

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 18:19:01 -0700, MNM <MNM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

"MNM" wrote:

Give me a few days to get the time to run the programs and gather the info.

Thanks a whole bunch Chuck.

I feel I must reiterate an important point. The two computers can only
communucate when the ADSL modem is powered up. Everything, computers and
modem, is connected to the hub.

Also, under the network setup wizard I chose OTHER in the "Select Connection
Method" screen. On the next I chose, "This computer connects to the Internet
directly or through a network hub..." This was done on both machines.

I do remember during the intall of XP Pro (desktop w/ Unknown Node Type) I
beleive I answered NO to a question relateing to DHCP. And, some networking
compocomponents are not intsalled as well.

MNM

What make and model modem are we talking about?

Details might be very useful here. The question that you answered, and the
missing network components, are very likely at least part of the problem. The
diagnostics that I requested will provide some good clues.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/background-information-useful-in.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.


There are two states in which I gathered the information. State 1 is with
the ADSL unpowered, and state 2 with it powered up. I also included a ping
test for each state since there was something very interesting I found in
State 1, the laptop could ping the desktop but not vice versa.

The desktop is running XP Pro Ver 2002, SP 2 (English Lang. OS)
The laptop is running XP Home Ver 2002, SP2 (Japanese Lang. OS)
The ADSL modem is an NEC- Aterm DR207C (Japanese Market)
[Yes, I currently reside in Japan.]

I. No ADSL
A. Desktop
1. IP Config/all
2. Browstat
3. Ping
B. Laptop
1. IP Config/all
2. Browstat
3. Ping
II. With ADSL
A. Desktop
1. IP Config/all
2. Browstat
3. Ping
B. Laptop
1. IP Config/all
2. Browstat
3. Ping

I.A.1
Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : M

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Mark's Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink 10/100 PCI NIC
(3C905-TX)

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-60-08-16-B7-30

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.27.194

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

I.A.2
Status for domain UCHI on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{83E1E4BC-21BE-4765-BEC7-45823D15EE33}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: M
Could not connect to registry, error = 5 Unable to determine build of
browser master: 5
Unable to determine server information for browser master: 5
1 backup servers retrieved from master M
\\M
Unable to retrieve server list from M : 2351

I.A.3
Pinging 169.254.1.26 with 32 bytes of data:



Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.

Request timed out.



Ping statistics for 169.254.1.26:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

I.B.1
Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : R

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Rumi's Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
Connection

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-39-F1-10-C4

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.1.26

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

I.B.2
Status for domain UCHI on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1A1696A7-23BE-4059-B7F1-E47D3DFD0DBB}
Browsing is NOT active on domain.
Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus.

I.B.3
Pinging 169.254.27.194 with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 169.254.27.194: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 169.254.27.194: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 169.254.27.194: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 169.254.27.194: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 169.254.27.194:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

II.A.1
Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : M

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Mark's Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 3Com EtherLink 10/100 PCI NIC
(3C905-TX)

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-60-08-16-B7-30

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, April 11, 2006 20:42:52

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 12, 2006 20:42:52

II.A.2
Status for domain UCHI on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{83E1E4BC-21BE-4765-BEC7-45823D15EE33}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: M
Could not connect to registry, error = 5 Unable to determine build of
browser master: 5
Unable to determine server information for browser master: 5
1 backup servers retrieved from master M
\\M
Unable to retrieve server list from M : 2351

II.A.3
Pinging r [192.168.0.6] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.0.6: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.0.6: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.0.6: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.0.6: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.0.6:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

II.B.1
Windows IP Configuration



Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : R

Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :

Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid

IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No



Ethernet adapter Rumi's Connection:



Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :

Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network
Connection

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-39-F1-10-C4

Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes

Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.3

Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1

Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:43:01 PM

Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Wednesday, April 12, 2006
8:43:01 PM

II.B.2
Status for domain UCHI on transport
\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{1A1696A7-23BE-4059-B7F1-E47D3DFD0DBB}
Browsing is active on domain.
Master browser name is: M
Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
of browser master: 53
Unable to determine server information for browser master: 123
1 backup servers retrieved from master M
\\M
Unable to retrieve server list from M : 2351

II.B.3
Pinging M [192.168.0.5] with 32 bytes of data:



Reply from 192.168.0.5: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.0.5: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.0.5: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Reply from 192.168.0.5: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128



Ping statistics for 192.168.0.5:

Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),

Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:

Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

What's weird that I notice: W/O the ADSL, State 1, Browsing is active on
the Desktop (M) But the laptop shows it as inactive. Then there's the PING
problem in this state.
With the ADSL, the registry could not ba accessed, error 5 from M and error
53 from R (laptop). From your web pages, this is about normal though.

OK, Mark,

First, node types Hybrid and Unknown are fine - without a WINS server
configured, Unknown is treated as Hybrid.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html#Unknown>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html#Unknown

Next, the Aterm DR207C is a combo ADSL modem / NAT router.
1) Start by doing the diagnostics described far below.
2) Then, re run the network setup wizard, on both computers, and choose:
This computer connects to the Internet through another computer on my network or
through a residential gateway.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#NATClient>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html#NATClient
The Aterm is a residential gateway. It provides the default gateway, DNS
server, and DHCP server.
3) Finally, do steps 5 - 7 of the diagnostics again (ie rerun the tests
themselves).

Next, let's discuss tests I.A.1-3 / I.B.1-3. If the computers are connected
thru the Aterm, and you power the Aterm down, then neither DHCP nor LAN should
be available. APIPA addresses, and connectivity loss, is normal in this case.
If M is the master browser, then R should be expected to see browsing as NOT
active on the domain.

And concentrate on the two computers while powered up and connected. If M has
an IP address of 192.168.0.2, and R has one of 192.168.0.3, why did you ping M
as 192.168.0.5, and ping R as 192.168.0.6? Worse yet, why did they respond to
those addresses? Did you take the "ipconfig /all" and "ping x" at the same
time?

Finally, do some more diagnostic work. You'll need to follow the instructions
in this article with extreme precision. Follow the links in the article itself.
1) Create folder C:\Utility on your computer, and make that folder part of the
Path.
2) Download PSTools (free) From SysInternals. Copy all components of PSTools
into C:\Utility.
3) Open Notepad. Ensure that Format - Word Wrap is not checked. Highlight then
Copy the code (Ctrl-C), precisely as it is presented in the linked article, and
Paste (Ctrl-V) into Notepad.
4) Save the Notepad file as "cpsserv.cmd", as type "All Files", into C:\Utility.
5) Run it by Start - Run - "cpsserv".
6) Wait patiently.
7) When Notepad opens up displaying c:\cpsserv.txt, first check Format and
ensure that Word Wrap is NOT checked! Then, copy the entire contents (Ctrl-A
Ctrl-C) and paste (Ctrl-V) into your next post.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/04/cpsserv-comprehensive-psservice-source.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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Relevant Pages

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    (microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web)
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    (microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web)
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    ... under the network setup wizard I chose OTHER in the "Select Connection ... the ADSL unpowered, and state 2 with it powered up. ... the laptop could ping the desktop but not vice versa. ... Status for domain UCHI on transport ...
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