Re: Networking

Chuck wrote:

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:17:14 -0600, Lee <foalks1971-msngps@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Chuck wrote:



On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:38:58 -0600, Lee <foalks1971-msngps@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:





Lee wrote:





Chuck wrote:





On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:03:30 -0600, Lee <foalks1971-msngps@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:







Chuck wrote:







On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 08:58:15 -0600, Lee <foalks1971-msngps@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:









After setting up a network between my desktop and laptop it worked fine
until I started making changes based on security suggestions I found on
trusted sites on the web. Now I have problems connecting the computers
and when I am able I have problems with it trying constantly to access
my dial up connection which is continuous until I unplug the network. I
now want to remove all old settings and and start from scratch.

It is a simple direct cable network with no router. I don't need to
connect to the web via the network as they each have access to the phone
line. First, how do I clear all settings so that they do not show back
up in a new setup. Second, all I want to do is share files and the
printer between these computers and let them access the net individually.

Which of these packets should I install “Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)”,
“File and printer sharing for a Microsoft network”, “QoS Packet
scheduler”, “Client for Microsoft networks”.

Also aren't these settings individual to each connection you set up? The
notebook also is wireless 802.11 bg , which I use when I work out of
town each week, at several eating establishments which are not secure.
Should I only install the TCP/IP protocol to prevent access to it in one
of these networks. I have heard about setting up a VPN on this
connection but all info I find is more confusing than helpful.

Both machines are running Win XP Home SP2. Laptop is HP Pavillion zv6130 AMD Athlon 64-3200, 512 MB ram, Desktop custom AMD Athlon XP2500+, 1 Gig ram . Both use builtin Realtech network interface.

I know this is a lot to cover and have looked on the news feeds for
info, but have been frustrated trying to interpret what I find as a lot
of it is not stated in a way that is understandable to a ignorant
novice. Any help is appreciated, Lee





Lee,

If you have two computers, and want to network them, how are you going to
connect both computers directly to each other, and to dialup simultaneously?

Are you using a simple crossover cable connected to Ethernet adapters in each
computer? Is that the "simple direct cable network with no router"?

If you're going to share files between the two, you'll need both “File and
printer sharing for a Microsoft network” and “Client for Microsoft networks”.
Depending upon how you connect those two protocols, you may need “Internet
Protocol (TCP/IP)”.

Do you really want to use this setup? You'll be so much better off using a NAT
router that supports dialup.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/sharing-your-dialup-internet-service.html>

http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/sharing-your-dialup-internet-service.html







Internet connection sharing is not a issue as my dialup is so slow it will barely support one computer at a time. I only set it to share on the original setup because it was available and wanted to see what it could do.
Yes the connection is a crossover cable between the Ethernet adapters. It is more than adequate as I only need to share files and printer and synchronize some folders with that wonderful little tool called Sync Tool from Microsoft.

I will soon have high speed cable available to me in th city I go to each weekend to work and will probably access it with wireless, but will deal with that when it happens.





Well, since you're asking for help stated in a way that is understandable to a
ignorant novice, I would try and get you to use the Network Setup Wizard. But I
don't see any selection in there that will give you your configuration.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html>

http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/using-network-setup-wizard-in-windows.html


I'm going to ask you to consider that maybe your dialup is so slow because you
have software running on each computer that you don't know about. This is a
very common problem today, with under protected computers. If you're not behind
a NAT router, you are under protected. I highly recommend a thorough malware
analysis - you may be surprised.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/dealing-with-malware-adware-spyware.html>

http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/dealing-with-malware-adware-spyware.html








I run Adaware, Spywareblaster, Spybot and Microsoft anti-spyware about every 5 days and more often if I suspect problems. My problem is that I live in the country and we have lousy phone service here. Also it was this slow even after a full wipe reformat and reinstall before any malware could possibly have been installed.
Am looking at Netgears wireless routers on the web now and like what I am reading about them. is wireless as safe int this type of router as wired?Their Super G looks good, but Double 108 is attractive because of the 802.11a . There will be times when in work city that on the cable access there will need to be connection sharing and possibly will have to computers using it at the same time. So I need a recommendation as to which router would fit this need on a home network.




I'm convinced. A router is needed. Because of the double firewall, Netgear seems the logical choice. I want to set up here at home to accommodate the current dial up I have, have it be wireless to accommodate my laptop which is "54g™ 802.11b/g WLAN with 125HSM / SpeedBooster™ and BroadRange™ support", and be ready for high speed Internet in the future, cable, DSL, or wireless, etc., all may soon be available. Remember I have a hardware (Zoom 2920) modem and a Ethernet connection I'm thinking the Netgear Rangemax (WPN824) would meet all these needs for high speed and dial up on both setups I am looking at putting together. Or is there a better unit I have overlooked. I want the unit with the most features and ability to assure covering any possibility. Any suggestions or am I on target?




I would definitely go with a WiFi solution. If you don't have high bandwidth
LAN though, and plan to buy all hardware by the same vendor, I wouldn't waste
money on Super-G though. Super-G (Speedbooster) is proprietary right now, and
all equipment has to have the same chipset. Do you have neighbors? Super-G
uses all 11 WiFi channels, and allows for no sharing of the spectrum.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/wifi-will-never-be-as-fast-as-ethernet.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/wifi-will-never-be-as-fast-as-ethernet.html

My general recommendation is to keep the modem, the router, and the WiFi
components separate. Selection criteria for each function is variable, and each
person's needs will differ. Combined units don't have the flexibility in
feature set that is sufficient to cover everybody's needs.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/computer-uniqueness.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/computer-uniqueness.html

What is the double firewall you're mentioning? One firewall, properly
maintained, should be enough. You should supplement that at another layer - one
perimeter device, and personal firewalls on each computer, are the way to go.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html

But you've got a good start. I'm curious - do you have 2 separate phone lines
coming to your house? Do both run on the same physical cable?





Yes they do . The lines come on two separate sets of wire coming in a single cable/wire. I use one for talk the other for the Internet. I only use the connection one computer at a time using a splitter giving access to each computer. The double firewall was a specification on Netgears wireless networking page "http://www.netgear.com/applications/home/wireless.php"; on several of their models.I'm heading into town now to buy these components. As I see it, right now I need to buy a wireless adapter and a router. I'm so ignorant of what is out there I need a little shove in the right direction.



OK, well, I don't see you mentioning an external dialup modem. Do you still
intend to setup Internet service using dialup, or are you going straight to
broadband?

Looking at Netgear's webpage (very interesting), I think you want to take their
selections with a grain of salt. Super G, Double 108, and RangeMax (MIMO) are
all proprietary solutions. MIMO is not even a standard yet. Look at those 3
product lines very skeptically.



Here at home it will be dialup, and the modem is regretfully internal.
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