Re: File Sharing

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On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 10:20:04 -0500, "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 07:53:31 -0500, "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@xxxxxxxx>
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On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 20:27:46 -0500, "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@xxxxxxxx>
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On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 18:38:53 -0500, "Dapper Dan" <dapperdan@xxxxxxxx>
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On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 13:14:54 -0500, "Dapper Dan"
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wrote:

Have 3 computers connected to a home network via a router on a cable
connection. I will only provide access to sharing a file/folder or
drive
when needed. Immediately thereafter I will remove the sharing
attributes.
Even though I remove the sharing from the XP computer, the
files/folders
and/or drives remain showing on Network Places for all three
computers,
however I can't access them. This doesn't happen when I am
"unsharing"
on
either of the other two (Win 98SE/Me); once I remove the sharing
attribute,
they disappear from the network.

I have simply been deleting these from the XP computer network but
this
doesn't seem right. Is there a setting on XP that will allow for the
file/folders and drives to disappear once I remove sharing?

Dan,

Windows 9x (95, 98, ME) and Windows NT (NT, 2000, XP) have different
ways
of
maintaining the Network Places display. The browser (the programs
that
maintain
Network Places) doesn't always update instantly.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html

Thanks for responding, Chuck. The network is setup with the Browse
Master
disabled on both the Win 98SE and Me computers.
If I have to live with it, I assume it's safe to continue deleting the
files/folders and/or drives from My Network Place after the share
association has been removed.

Dan

Dan,

Thanks for the update. Your problem is almost certainly caused by
browser
latency. It would be interesting to find out why the Win 9x servers
produce
immediate results, but the Win NT server produces latency.
Unfortunately,
as
Win 9x is a sunsetted product, I don't think there's too much future
in
exploring it. Unless you want to play with Ethereal that is. ;)

Just for curiosity, why do you like to activate / deactivate shares to
control
access? Is the XP server running XP Home?

Yes, running XP home.

Paranoid, most likely, may be the honest answer as to why I activate and
deactivate sharing. When I set up the 2 computer network a few years ago
running with Win 98 & Me, I had read about the security issues and
elected
to only share when needed and had no problems whatsoever.

We don't really need to share, other than the printer and that's been
running OK. Had to reinstall Windows Me on my wife's laptop a few weeks
ago
and wanted to use the network to transfer her personal files to my XP .
So
activated sharing on those files I wanted to share and transferred
without
a
hitch. However couldn't organize the return of the files via the network
so
ended up saving on another media and reloaded directly. Then deactivated
sharing and have been searching on and off to find out why the folder
icons
remain on the network even though they have been unshared.

Dan

Dan,

How does everything connect to the Internet - a hub, or a router? Who
are
you
worried about - folks on the Internet, or other folks on your LAN?

Chuck

Have a cable modem connected to a wired router. Still using Windows
Firewall
on the new XP, but the other two computers have Kerio firewalls. My
concern
would be outside factors.

Dan

Dan,

If you are using a NAT router for sharing Internet service, and personal
firewalls on each computer, you are well protected against network level
attacks. File sharing should not pass thru a NAT router. Concentrate on
a
layered security for all computers.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/please-protect-yourself-layer-your.html

Internet attacks can happen within seconds, whether you are at the
computer or
not. If you are unprotected, turning things on and off is not a valid
workaround. If you protect yourself properly, you don't need to turn
things on
and off. What happens when you activate a share? Do you disconnect
Internet
service then?
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/security-by-obscurity.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/security-by-obscurity.html

Thanks for the clarification Chuck. Given that all computers are protected,
I'll simply activate permanently what will be shared and leave it alone.

Thanks for all your help.

Dan

Glad to help, Dan. Keep it simple, and when there's a problem, it will be
easier to see. And stay educated - Layer 5 is the most essential.

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
.



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