Re: Pulling my hair out over file sharing

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Chuck, I'll top post this one because it is the end.

YEAH! I turned off simple file sharing - deleted the share, restart,
created a share, and restarted. Voila!

Somehow I missed the link that suggested that the first two times I worked
my way through the links. In any case, that worked. I guess I'll never know
what really caused it.

In any case, thank you so so much for your help and for your blog. You are
the best.
"Chuck" wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 15:49:04 -0800, Pam <Pam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 15:35:01 -0800, Pam <Pam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:31:02 -0800, Pam <Pam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On Sat, 5 Nov 2005 06:36:03 -0800, Pam <Pam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >I orginally posted this issue in the wireless forum - a couple of kind folks
> >> >> >> >tried to help but so far to no avail. I manage to isolate the problem to my
> >> >> >> >wired desktop computer so I thought I would try posting over here. Here goes:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >I have a laptop and a desktop networked via a router. Laptop is wireless,
> >> >> >> >desktop is wired. Verizon DSL comes to both via the router.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Problem: Internet access is fine. I can access the laptop files from the
> >> >> >> >desktop fine. I can use the desktop's printer from the laptop fine. I CAN'T
> >> >> >> >access the desktop's files from the laptop. I get the 'you may not have
> >> >> >> >permission...access denied'message.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Details:
> >> >> >> >Desktop is running XP Pro. Network connect is static IP.
> >> >> >> >Laptop is running XP Media Edition (this means it must be Home Edition,
> >> >> >> >right?) -wireless connect -DHCP.
> >> >> >> >Router is from Verizon - Westell Versalink
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >I can ping the desktop from the laptop
> >> >> >> >I turned off all firewalls - Windows and Norton
> >> >> >> >I took off the WEP security
> >> >> >> >file sharing is on - simple file sharing and switched to Advanced - didn't
> >> >> >> >help
> >> >> >> >I turned everything off and went to make coffee. Then turned everything on,
> >> >> >> >router first.
> >> >> >> >I made sure the user accounts have the exact same names.
> >> >> >> >System permissions are simple - anybody can do anything
> >> >> >> >I tried putting a password (identical) on each account
> >> >> >> >I switched the laptop to a wired connection
> >> >> >> >I connected a wired Windows 98SE machine (could get to the XP desktop files
> >> >> >> >from there)
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >Any ideas?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Pam,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> The "...access denied" messages has many causes. Attack the problem
> >> >> >> systematically, and it should be possible to find the cause.
> >> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/mysterious-error-5-aka-access-denied.html>
> >> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/mysterious-error-5-aka-access-denied.html
> >> >>
> >> >> >Chuck, your blog is marvelous. I read every bit and checked every setting one
> >> >> >by one. Then I had to step away because it was making me really crazy. Now
> >> >> >I'm back after a long rest and re-read and tried everything again - one by
> >> >> >one, of course. Same result.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >A summary of where I stand is:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >- A Dell desktop running XP Pro SP2 is the server
> >> >> >- The desktop is wired to a versalink router
> >> >> >- I have two choices of client - Toshiba laptop XP MCE SP2 wireless and
> >> >> >Windows 95SE wired to router.
> >> >> >- All machines have identical accounts with identical passwords.
> >> >> >- The guest account is activated with identical password on the XP machines.
> >> >> >- I tried creating a new account just for test
> >> >> >
> >> >> >result: Access denied error=5 using laptop or Win95 machine as client to
> >> >> >access Dell Desktop. Can access both the laptop and the Win95 as server.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >There was just one thing that was a bit odd (I'm grasping at straws) - in
> >> >> >the security settings, user rights assignment, 'access this computier from
> >> >> >the network' - there is the list of familar items Administrators, everyone,
> >> >> >users, powerusers, there are two stranges ones: aspnet and *s-..... (where
> >> >> >..... is a long string of numbers letters and dashes) - could that meaning
> >> >> >anything?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >No firewalls are on, Norton Internet Security is completely removed (as far
> >> >> >as I can tell, how can I know for sure...)
> >> >> >
> >> >> >any thoughts?
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Pam,
> >> >>
> >> >> First, thanks for the feedback. Any time I see "your blog" and "marvelous" in
> >> >> the same sentence, I feel that I've accomplished something. But enough back
> >> >> patting, I see "any thoughts?" at the end of the post.
> >> >>
> >> >> Let's take an easy approach, and start by reviewing your setup. Let's look at
> >> >> "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each computer, and try and diagnose
> >> >> the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow instructions
> >> >> precisely:
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
> >> >>
> >> >> And when you reply, please type your reply after my latest post.
> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
> >>
> >> >Here goes, as requested:
> >> >
> >> >Background Information
> >> >
> >> >Delldesktop running XP Pro SP2, bblaptop running XP MCE SP2. Simple file
> >> >sharing on both. File permissions are set. Account is an administrator
> >> >account, Guest account is on.
> >> >
> >> >When attempting to view shared docs bblaptop as client, Delldesktop as
> >> >server message is ‘\\Delldesktop\shareddocs is not accessible. You might not
> >> >have permission to use this network resource. Contact the administrator of
> >> >this server to find out if you have access permissions. Access is denied.’
> >> >
> >> >I believe that I am using guest authentication because I am using simple
> >> >file sharing.
> >> >I’m not seeing anything in the event viewer that looks at all relevant.
> >> >Retrictanonymous is set to zero
> >> >It’s hard to say what happened new to cause the problem because there was a
> >> >fair amount of time when I didn’t even try to access data via the lan
> >> >however, four events that I can think of – from the sublime to the trivial -
> >> >are:
> >> >• I had a flood in my office, 6 in. of H2O killed the delldesktop. I
> >> >replaced the motherboard and it came back to life
> >> >• Installed sp2
> >> >• Installed Verison DSL
> >> >• On a whim decided to change the user accounts from first and last name to
> >> >first name only on one of the machines (can’t remember which) and changed it
> >> >back when the problems started.
> >> >
> >> >I am using a static IP connection to the router for the desktop – this was
> >> >after a long long process of getting the Verizon dsl to work.
> >> >
> >> >Ipconfig:
> >> >
> >> >Windows IP Configuration
> >> >
> >> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : DellDesktop
> >> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> >> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> >> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >> > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection via Westell:
> >> >
> >> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> >> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx Gigabit
> >> >Controller
> >> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-72-6E-F1
> >> > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> >> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.48
> >> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> >> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> >> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> >> >
> >> >Browstat from the Delldesktop:
> >> >
> >> >Status for domain MSHOME on transport
> >> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{DA61C3E3-2C4C-49EC-914A-43E2BD39BB82}
> >> > Browsing is active on domain.
> >> > Master browser name is: DELLDESKTOP
> >> > Master browser is running build 2600
> >> > 1 backup servers retrieved from master DELLDESKTOP
> >> > \\DELLDESKTOP
> >> > There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
> >> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{DA61C3E3-2C4C-49EC-914A-43E2BD39BB82}
> >> > There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
> >> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{DA61C3E3-2C4C-49EC-914A-43E2BD39BB82}
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Browstat from the bblaptop:
> >> >
> >> >Status for domain MSHOME on transport
> >> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B9F52395-BFCB-4F4B-B32B-546270C9CBF4}
> >> > Browsing is active on domain.
> >> > Master browser name is: DELLDESKTOP
> >> >Could not open key in registry, error = 5 Unable to determine build
> >> >of browser master: 5
> >> > \\\\DELLDESKTOP . Version:05.01 Flags: 51207 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
> >> > 1 backup servers retrieved from master DELLDESKTOP
> >> > \\DELLDESKTOP
> >> > There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
> >> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B9F52395-BFCB-4F4B-B32B-546270C9CBF4}
> >> > There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
> >> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{B9F52395-BFCB-4F4B-B32B-546270C9CBF4}
> >>
> >> Pam,
> >>
> >> Well, "access denied" is a normal error, when you're using Simple File Sharing,
> >> for any administrative access. For instance, browstat doing a registry lookup
> >> on the master browser will always get "access denied". Or, attempting network
> >> access to a protected folder or share, such as (but not limited to) "C$", "C:\",
> >> "C:\Program Files", or "C:\Windows" will always get "access denied".
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/mysterious-error-5-aka-access-denied.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/mysterious-error-5-aka-access-denied.html
> >>
> >> But, if you're getting "access denied" when you try to access any normal
> >> (non-admin) shares, you may have a problem. If you do, it will most generally
> >> be a personal firewall error. Which shares are you trying to access? Be
> >> specific here please. Maybe provide "ipconfig /all" from bblaptop too.
> >>
> >> Did you follow the complete instructions from Symantec? I used to do a yearly
> >> un install (previous years version of NAV) / re install (new years version of
> >> NAV) because NAV sold in the store, with rebate, was way cheaper than paying the
> >> yearly (and ever increasing) subscription fees. Then I realised it was far
> >> easier to re format and re install Windows XP, and all apps, so I did that for a
> >> couple years.
> >>
> >> Finally, I re formatted and re installed Windows XP, and installed another
> >> antivirus. And never looked back on Symantec again. And as of last fall, I am
> >> completely S$ free on all computers.
> >>
> >> Are you sure that you un installed all components in NIS? Let's see if Autoruns
> >> (free) from SysInternals can help. Run Autoruns on DELLDESKTOP, and get a
> >> Protocol_Catalog9 extract.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/12/lsp-winsock-analysis-using-log-from.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/12/lsp-winsock-analysis-using-log-from.html
> >>
> >> And Pam, before you reply again, please read THIS article.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#TopPosting
>
> >Chuck, right it is definitely not an admin share. In my desperation I even
> >set up a share for another folder – also not admin – same result.
>
> <SNIP>
>
> >I looked at your instructions on winsock repairs but did not follow them as
> >I have no problems connecting to the internet – if you meant for me to try
> >this, please let me know.
> >
> >I do apologize for not following your instructions on the bottom post….
> >
> >Thanks so much for you kind attention.
>
> Looks normal, Pam. I wonder could this be 885250 again?
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/11/irregularities-in-individual-share.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/11/irregularities-in-individual-share.html
>
> Is shares permissions setup properly?
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Help
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>
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