Re: Please help!! Trying to connect 2 computers via wirelss



"Chuck" wrote:

> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:25:03 -0800, Kewlkanadianguy
> <Kewlkanadianguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >"Chuck" wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 08:11:03 -0800, Kewlkanadianguy
> >> <Kewlkanadianguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Okay I have wireless router supplyied by my internet provider. I have a
> >> >desktop a attached to the router via ethernet cable and my laptop via
> >> >wireless. My internet works fine and in my network places it shows both
> >> >computers and I have access to the files on both computers. HOWEVER whenever
> >> >I try to use the "net send" to send a message to the other computer it says
> >> >they are not in this session? I would like to setup this network so that
> >> >both computers are the same and what I mean by that is that if I check my
> >> >email on one computer and goto the other computer it is exactly the same. I
> >> >think what I am talking about is a different kind of network. We have 3
> >> >people in the house and windows loads up and lets anyone of us logon with our
> >> >own personal settings and I would like both computers to be hooked up so that
> >> >when logging onto on computer and downloading something and then goto the
> >> >other computer and it is there as if I did the download on that computer. I
> >> >am not articulating myself well.. Anyhow I have a young son and he is on
> >> >messanger all the time and I am getting worried about certian things he is
> >> >discussing on there so the most important thing right now is to get that "net
> >> >send" command working so I am able to see the messages he is getting from my
> >> >computer. Can someone please help me with this?
> >> >
> >> >Regards,
> >> >
> >> >Rick
> >>
> >> Rick,
> >>
> >> "The "net send" messages are displayed by the Messenger service, which you
> >> should NOT confuse with "MSN Messenger", "Windows Messenger", or any other IM
> >> product.
> >>
> >> Thanks to spammers sending broadcasts to the Messenger ports, many people
> >> decided that the Messenger service presents a security risk, and advise that it
> >> be disabled. With SP2, this service is disabled by default.
> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/services-running-on-your-computer.html>
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/services-running-on-your-computer.html
> >> <http://web.archive.org/web/20041130030655/www.blackviper.com/WinXP/service411.htm#Messenger>
> >> http://web.archive.org/web/20041130030655/www.blackviper.com/WinXP/service411.htm#Messenger
> >>
> >> Regardless of that, I'm not too sure what use you can actually make with the
> >> Messenger service and "net send" towards controlling or even monitoring your
> >> son's Instant Messenger ("MSN Messenger", "Windows Messenger", etc) use.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> >> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> >> My email is AT DOT
> >> actual address pchuck mvps org.
> >>
> >
> >Thank you for your prompt response.. Okay well what I was trying to get at
> >is that for some reason it is saying that my son's computer is not in session
> >(whatever that means) and I have a program that allows me to monitor my son's
> >messages via msn messanger. The program see's my sons computer but does not
> >allow me to monitor it because again something do to with it not being in
> >session. As I stated before I can share files, printers ect however for some
> >reason it doesn't see my son's computer as logged on or something of that
> >nature? Can anyone help me with this? The program I am using is called
> >"etherboss msn messanger converstion monitor and sniffer". Thanks in
> >advance..
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Rick
>
> Rick,
>
> OK, I was able to locate the Etherboss product information online, and note what
> I had suspected. There are two types of monitoring.
> # Active. The computer being monitored has to have an agent program running on
> it. The agent program intercepts the IM conversation, and rebroadcasts it onto
> the LAN. This is not the problem here; as noted by Etherboss,
>
> No additional program installation is needed on the monitoring target computers.
> <http://www.softpile.com/Internet/Utilities/Review_21122_index.html>
> http://www.softpile.com/Internet/Utilities/Review_21122_index.html
>
> # Passive. All computers on the LAN participate in one large open conversation.
> This is reminiscent of classical, hub-based Ethernet. You most likely have a
> switch, which conducts any conversation between any 2 hosts on the LAN as a
> separate conversation, accessible only to those hosts. As noted by Etherboss,
>
> You may need to enable your switch's monitoring feature, which is supported by
> most current switch, in order to capture conversations from other computers.
>
> In my experience, when this type of network monitoring is done in a large
> (corporate) LAN, TWO things have to be done.
> # The switch has to be set to "promiscuous" mode, to enable broadcast of all
> traffic to all nodes.
> # The LAN card on the monitoring computer has to be set to "promiscuous" mode,
> to enable that computer to receive conversations not intended for it.
>
> If you have a problem with executing #1, no problem. In spite of the Etherboss
> claim "supported by most current switch", which may or may not be true, simply
> buy a HUB, and connect both the router / switch, and both computers, to the hub.
>
> I'm not too sure what you do about executing #2. Not all Ethernet cards support
> promiscuous mode. Did you do this on yours? Without being in promiscuous mode,
> your card will likely see packets between your sons computer and the switch as
> another conversation, and ignore them. Unless Etherboss actually hooks the
> Ethernet drivers, and forces promiscuous mode automatically.
>
> This may be a case for Etherboss Customer Support.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>

Thank you so much for taking the time to try and help me! In fact you
helped me out a great deal!!! I do not know how to switch my network card to
promiscuous mode? If that is the case I would have to activate that on my
wireless lan card on my laptop as my son gets the good desktop computer lol.
You it's kinda funny I used to know so much about DOS systems I have been
around computers since 300 baud modems and XT pcs BBS's,ect ect.... However I
stopped for awhile after 98se and came back into it again and trying to catch
up... Anyhow thanks alot for your help and sorry for my computer related
ignorance..

Rick
.

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