Re: home network on office computer w/d...

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 22:17:31 -0600, ab <nospam-007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Chuck wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:38:35 -0600, ab <nospam-007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:34:39 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Chuck wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:13:52 -0600, ab <abhi_nav@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am new to the networking world. I have my office laptop which is
>>>
>>>part
>>>
>>>>>>>of a domain. I also have another laptop at home and a desktop at
>>>
>>>home. I
>>>
>>>>>>>have wireless internet through a router at home. Now, I want to
>>>
>>>setup a
>>>
>>>>>>>home network to transfer files easily between the three computers. How
>>>>>>>can I do this? I will really appreciate if someone can point me in the
>>>>>>>right direction. a google search yielded:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1. Something about choosing workgroup over domain, but my laptop is
>>>>>>>already part of a domain. Can I have both?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Do you have wireless Internet working for the office laptop, when
>>>
>>>it's at home?
>>>
>>>>>>That's the key. Start with this article, which should cover the
>>>
>>>physical
>>>
>>>>>>connectivity issues.
>>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/have-laptop-will-travel.html>
>>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/have-laptop-will-travel.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now, the office laptop can work just as well being a domain member, and
>>>>>>accessing your home workgroup, as joining the workgroup. You won't
>>>
>>>see the
>>>
>>>>>>other computers in Network Neighborhood, but they will be there.
>>>
>>>There are
>>>
>>>>>>several other connects that you may need to know about, though, so
>>>
>>>read this
>>>
>>>>>>article too.
>>>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
>>>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And please - save yourself (and your LAN admin) a lot of work.
>>>
>>>Don't go joining
>>>
>>>>>>the laptop to the workgroup. If you do that, you'll have to rejoin
>>>
>>>the domain
>>>
>>>>>>when you take the laptop back to your office.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>okay, unfortunately by the time I read your message, I had already
>>>>>messed up my network such that it lost the domain. My sys admin was king
>>>>>enough to explain me and config my domain again.
>>>>>
>>>>>Another question: I have a wireless card on my notebook. My modem goes
>>>>>through a router. I want to connect my desktop to the laptop (with the
>>>>>domain) through a network cable such that I dont have to bring the cable
>>>>>from the modem to the desktop. Now sure how to do this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>First, learn the difference between physical connection (using either
>>>
>>>Ethernet
>>>
>>>>or WiFi), and Windows Networking / file sharing authentication using
>>>
>>>domain
>>>
>>>>membership.
>>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html>
>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/windows-networking.html
>>>>
>>>
>>><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html>
>>>
>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html
>>>>
>>>>Now, how do you intend to use the wireless card on the notebook?
>>>
>>>What will it
>>>
>>>>connect to?
>>>>
>>>
>>>Okay, let me restate the whole thing along with what I have learnt from
>>>the two links above.
>>>
>>>There are two things that I want to accomplish:
>>>
>>>1. Access internet from my desktop by using a network cable connected to
>>> a notebook which connects to the internet using wireless router. I
>>>thought this would be possible by simply connecting the two computer via
>>>a network cable but...
>>>
>>>2. Setup a small wireless home network to share files between 2
>>>notebooks and the desktop.
>>>
>>>
>>>Now, what do I have:
>>>
>>>one notebook win xp part of a domain, XYZ. Simple file sharing is turned
>>>on.
>>>another notebook win xp, workgroup XYZ
>>>one desktop with xp home, workgroup XYZ
>>>
>>>I understand that each computer will have a different ip address
>>>assigned to it by the router.
>>>
>>>
>>>I read somewhere that I can setup a ICS. I tried sharing my wireless
>>>network on the notebook Network properties>advanced tools>settings. Maybe
>>>I did not enable all the options needed, but after connecting the
>>>notebook to the desktop via a network cable, I could nont access the
>>>network (internet) from the desktop while it was working fine on the
>>>notebook. The network cable port on the notebook was lighted red, while
>>>it was green on the desktop.
>>>
>>>This is all I have. How to proceed? I really appreciate your help.
>>
>>
>> OK, I'm starting (just) to get the picture.
>>
>> You have a total of 3 computers, a router, and a broadband modem. There are 3
>> possible scenarios to connect them.
>> 1) Connect the router to the modem, and connect all 3 computers to the router.
>> 2) Connect the router to the modem, computers 1 and 2 to the router, and the 3rd
>> computer to computer 1, thru a second connection.
>> 3) Connect computer 1 to the modem, connect the router to a second connection on
>> computer 1, and connect computers 2 and 3 to the router.
>>
>> Scenario #1 is the simplest by far. Scenario #2 is used when computer #3 can't
>> connect to the router. Scenario #3 is used when the modem doesn't have an
>> Ethernet port (either USB, or PPP/serial). When scenarios #2 and 3 are
>> necessary, computer #1 runs ICS to share the Internet connection.
>>
>> Both scenarios #2 and 3 are hella more work than scenario #1, in the long run.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/ics-is-ok-but-you-can-do-better.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/ics-is-ok-but-you-can-do-better.html
>>
>> Which scenario describes your network? Let's start there. First, get the
>> physical layout described, then we have to mix in the domain issue.
>>
>Currently, I have all three computers connected to the modem
>individually. The workgroup on two of them is the same as the domain on
>one. Now, do I have to share specific folders in order to see these
>computers on the others?

You have to have A share on any computer that you wish to be seen from any
others. Whether it's a default (admin) share, or a root share that you setup,
or a specific folder share that you setup, is your decision.

Now, if you have 3 computers with individual direct connections to the modem,
are you paying for 3 accounts from the ISP? If so, you may wish to read this
article:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/one-unique-case-where-ipxspx-may-help.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/one-unique-case-where-ipxspx-may-help.html

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
.

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