Re: One-way connection: networked XP/2000 PC's


"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:12:21 -0800, "Cheryl"
> <> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >news:5dgsp1dc4j00fnrq3dp1gqh4ivkatcq1gd@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:20:13 -0800, "Cheryl"
> >> <> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Well, I've been at this for nearly 12 hours now and have exhausted
every
> >> >avenue I can think of. I'm hoping someone's seen this before! I am
> >trying
> >> >to set up a home network with 2 PC's:
> >> >
> >> >#1 - Windows XP Pro SP2 - this one's been around for a while, and it's
> >> >currently running Norton Internet Security / NAV
> >> >#2 - Windows 2000 Pro SP2 - new to me, clean installation 1 week ago,
> >> >currently running ZoneAlarm
> >> >
> >> >I started on #1 (XP) and set up a workgroup ("HOME") and named the
> >computer
> >> >"CHERYL". I set up sharing for 3 printers and the "Shared Documents"
> >folder
> >> >on this computer. Visibility/security set to "Everyone".
> >> >
> >> >I went to #2 (2000) and named it "HOME01" and tried to connect to
> >workgroup
> >> >"HOME"... so far, so good. My Network Places -> Computers Near Me ->
> >> >Cheryl -> when prompted for my username/password I was able to log in.
I
> >> >can see files on #1, edit them, drop new files in the shared
directory,
> >etc.
> >> >
> >> >But here's where my luck turned bad...I shared a folder on the 2000
> >machine
> >> >(I've tried every sharing combination I can think of... Everyone,
Guest,
> >the
> >> >default username/password on the other PC) and shared a printer as
well.
> >I
> >> >went back to #1 (XP) and go to My Network Places -> View Workgroup
> >> >Computers -> nothing happens. Here's a list of the things I've tried
> >(plus
> >> >more, but this is all I remember at this point!)
> >> >
> >> >+ Search #1 for "computers" by name or IP, and it can't find #2.
> >> >
> >> >+ ping #2 from #1 and #1 from #2 by name and IP -> both work fine
> >> >
> >> >+ #1: net view -> I can see both computers as \\CHERYL and \\HOME01
> >> >
> >> >+ #1: net view \\HOME01 -- I can see the contents fine:
> >> >C:\ . . . >net view \\HOME01\
> >> >. . .
> >> >hp_shared_printer Print
> >> >SharedDocs Disk
> >> >The command completed successfully.
> >> >
> >> >+ #1: But if I try to actually connect to one of these, I get the
dreaded
> >> >error 53:
> >> >net use \\HOME01\SharedDocs *
> >> >Type the password for \\HOME01\SharedDocs:
> >> >System error 53 has occurred.
> >> >The network path was not found.
> >> >
> >> >So I finally got it simplified to the following experiment:
> >> >#2 - Start - Run - \\CHERYL -> opens up the shared directories on
the
> >XP
> >> >computer just fine
> >> >#2 - Start - Run - \\HOME01 (its own name) -> opens up its shared
> >> >directories
> >> >#1 - Start - Run - \\HOME01 -> error popup: The network path was not
> >found.
> >> >#1 - Start - Run - \\CHERYL (its own name) -> error popup: The network
> >path
> >> >was not found.
> >> >This last part really bothers me... why can't the XP machine even see
> >> >itself, when the computer across the room can clearly see its shared
> >> >contents??
> >> >
> >> >+ I tried stopping/starting the browser on both machines, to no avail.
I
> >> >uninstalled and re-installed the network connections on the XP machine
> >> >several times, even switching from my wireless card to a USB LAN
> >connection.
> >> >I can see the internet from the XP machine and everything appears
normal,
> >> >except it doesn't think there are any networked computers connected to
> >it!
> >> >
> >> >I did some more debugging with browstat.exe on both machines. The only
> >> >unusual thing I ran across was the following error message. From
either
> >> >machine, if I type:
> >> > browstat stats \\CHERYL
> >> >then I see the error message in reply:
> >> > Unable to query browser statistics: 81
> >> >Whereas if I simply type browstat stats, I do get a (non-error)
response.
> >I
> >> >can post the complete results if it would be useful.
> >> >
> >> >Additionally, on #1 when I go to My Network Places -> Add a Network
> >Place ->
> >> >Choose Another Network Location -> Browse, I see the following
hierarchy:
> >> >+ My Network Places
> >> > + Entire Network
> >> > - Microsoft Terminal Services
> >> > - Web Client Network
> >> > - My Groups
> >> >I don't have anything set up in "My Groups". A friend told me that on
> >his
> >> >PC, he sees an entry for "Microsoft Windows Network" (or similar name)
> >under
> >> >"Entire Network"? I definitely don't have anything like that...
> >> >
> >> >I've tried disabling the two firewall applications and it doesn't
appear
> >to
> >> >make any difference...I didn't uninstall, however. I also spent some
> >time
> >> >on Chuck's website and tried repairing the LSP/Winsock Layer... I went
> >> >through 3 of the 6 fixes and hadn't yet found anything.
> >> >
> >> >Any ideas? I'm not sure where to look next. This is the first time
I've
> >> >done this and I was optimistic after I got it working one way this
> >> >morning... but this was not how I'd envisioned spending my *entire*
day!
> >> >
> >> >- Cheryl (results of ipconfig /all posted at bottom)
> >> >
> >> >Computer #1 (XP)
> >> >=================
> >> >Windows IP Configuration
> >> >
> >> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : CHERYL
> >> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
> >> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
> >> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gateway.2wire.net
> >> >
> >> >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 4:
> >> >
> >> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gateway.2wire.net
> >> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 2Wire Gateway USB
> >> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-72-85-EE-D2
> >> > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> >> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> >> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.1.35
> >> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
> >> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.1
> >> > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.1
> >> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.1
> >> > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, December 12, 2005
> >> >10:12:49 PM
> >> > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, December 12, 2005
> >> >11:12:49 PM
> >> >
> >> >Computer #2 (2000)
> >> >=================
> >> >Windows 2000 IP Configuration
> >> >
> >> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HOME01
> >> > Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . . . :
> >> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
> >> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> >> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : gateway.2wire.net
> >> >
> >> >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> >> >
> >> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : gateway.2wire.net
> >> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel 8255x-based PCI
> >Ethernet
> >> >Adapter (10/100)
> >> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-E0-81-00-65-B3
> >> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
> >> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> >> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.1.33
> >> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
> >> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.1
> >> > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.1
> >> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.0.1
> >> > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, December 12, 2005
> >> >10:03:12 PM
> >> > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, December 12, 2005
> >> >11:03:12 PM
> >>
> >> Cheryl,
> >>
> >> If both computers are connected, and both computers have "Node Type . .
..
> >. . .
> >> . . . . . . : Broadcast", the most likely problem is a misconfigured or
> >> overlooked firewall. That's not the only possibility, just the most
> >likely.
> >>
>
><http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/mysterious-error-53-aka-name-not-fou
n
> >d.html>
> >>
>
>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/mysterious-error-53-aka-name-not-foun
d
> >.html
> >>
> >> The diagnostics needed is "browstat status", not "browstat stats".
> >Precisely
> >> "browstat status", please. And yes, from both computers.
> >>
> >> Next, let's look at the scope of the problem.
>
> <SNIP>
>
> >Thanks for your help!! Here's the info you asked for (plus some
additional
> >info... I occasionally got different results with Norton Internet
Security
> >disabled vs. enabled, but neither was error-free).
> >
> >Results of browstat status:
> >
> >Computer #1 (XP)
> >==============
> >This one is giving different results than it was 1-1/2 hours ago... I've
> >done two things in the meantime:
> >(1) Disabling/re-enabling the firewalls on both machines a number of
times.
> >(2) I removed the second administrator from the 2000 machine and renamed
the
> >default "Administrator" to the name I just deleted and set the password
to
> >match.
> >
> >*** 1-1-2/ hours ago ***
> >C:\Program Files\Support Tools>browstat status
> >
> >Status for domain HOME on transport
> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{04810707-F0AA-4FFC-AE53
> >-32BD0FB17C35}
> > Browsing is active on domain.
> > Master browser name is: HOME01
> > Master browser is running build 2195
> > 2 backup servers retrieved from master HOME01
> > \\HOME01
> > \\CHERYL
> > There are 2 servers in domain HOME on transport
> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0481070
> >7-F0AA-4FFC-AE53-32BD0FB17C35}
> > There are 1 domains in domain HOME on transport
> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{0481070
> >7-F0AA-4FFC-AE53-32BD0FB17C35}
> >
> >*** now ***
> >C:\Program Files\Support Tools>browstat status
> >
> >Status for domain HOME on transport
> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{04810707-F0AA-4FFC-AE53
> >-32BD0FB17C35}
> > Browsing is active on domain.
> > Master browser name is: HOME01
> >Could not connect to registry, error = 5 Unable to determine build
of
> >browser master: 5
> > Unable to determine server information for browser master: 5
> > 2 backup servers retrieved from master HOME01
> > \\HOME01
> > \\CHERYL
> > There are 2 servers in domain HOME on transport
> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{04810707-F0AA-4FFC-AE53-32BD0FB17C35}
> > There are 1 domains in domain HOME on transport
> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{04810707-F0AA-4FFC-AE53-32BD0FB17C35}
> >
> >Computer #2 (2000)
> >==============
> >D:\ABC>browstat status
> >
> >Status for domain HOME on transport
> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{CCA86E15-6273-439A-A844-BC0DB0B92771}
> > Browsing is active on domain.
> > Master browser name is: HOME01
> > Master browser is running build 2195
> > 2 backup servers retrieved from master HOME01
> > \\CHERYL
> > \\HOME01
> > There are 2 servers in domain HOME on transport
> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{CCA86E15-6273-439A-A844-BC0DB0B92771}
> > There are 1 domains in domain HOME on transport
> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{CCA86E15-6273-439A-A844-BC0DB0B92771}
> >
> >Results of cdiag program:
> >
> >Computer #1 (XP)
> >==============
> >This gets interesting...
> >Case #1 - Norton Internet Security is enabled
> >I get the following errors at the command prompt while the program runs:
> >
> >System error 5 has occurred.
> >Access is denied.
> >
> >System error 5 has occurred.
> >Access is denied.
> >
> >System error 53 has occurred.
> >The network path was not found.
> >
> >*****
> >Here are the results of the program:
> >****
>
> <SNIP>
>
> Cheryl,
>
> Well, to start, if you're going to play with the Windows 2000 computer
> administrator, and it's the master browser, you should expect an "error =
5"
> when trying to access its registry.
>
> Do you have Norton Internet Security on both computers? Disabling NIS is
a
> known problem.
>
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-hel
p.html>
>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help
..html
>
> This almost has to be either a personal firewall, or LSP / Winsock,
problem.
> Let's start with NIS.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.

Chuck, thanks for your help!! I actually only have NIS on the XP machine.
The 2000 machine is running ZoneAlarm. Actually, on XP I had several
products: Norton SystemWorks 2004 and Norton Internet Security 2005. I
uninstalled both and followed the instructions on the Symantec webpage
(e.g., running SymNRT, etc.) to ensure that they were *really* removed. I'm
now running the standard Windows firewall on the XP machine. I followed
your instructions on how to make sure that the Windows file sharing is truly
enabled through the Windows firewall. The behavior's pretty much the
same... that is, I can still see CHERYL from HOME01 but not vice-versa, and
CHERYL can't appear to see itself whether or not it's connected to the
network. What next?

Cheryl


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