RE: Can't enter 2 XP machines into a Workgroup

Try to reinstall the TCP/IP stack on the XP Home. MS has made it difficult to
do this, but there are freeware ultilities out there that do the same.

"Mantis" wrote:

> I totally hear, and I did try that, but it didn't work either. This is the
> funny thing about all of this. A while back, I had my XP Home machine hard
> wired to the network and the workgroup worked fine. But I had to reformat my
> drive on it and unfortunately, the pegs that hold the ethernet cable in
> snapped off so the cable keeps sliding out which is why I went to the
> wireless USB NIC. I haven't needed the workgroup until now, but even just
> holding the hard wire to the machine won't allow it to see the other computer
> on the workgroup. I can get Internet access and I ping the gateway, so I
> know the wire is good. I just don't know what else to try. Any help is
> greatly appreciated.
>
> "Techmanblues" wrote:
>
> > Why not just uninstall NIS altogether and see what happens? Sometimes
> > uninstalling the software firewall still does not completely remove it from
> > the system. Firewalls like NIS modify Windows own security files. So who
> > knows if NIS really put those files and settings back after uninstallation.
> >
> > From my experience, Norton's Internet Security is more trouble than it's
> > worth. I have stopped using it and have been in smooth sailing in terms of
> > sharing resources in a network. I mean what is the reaon for installing it in
> > a computer anyway? The same goes for ZoneAlarm. The point of all this
> > security measures is to prevent the outside world from hacking into the
> > computers. Since all the computers in the network trust each other, why
> > install NIS on some or all of them? Our attention should focus on permimeter
> > security. Therefore, more attention should pay on the strength of the
> > router/gateway. If a comsumer level router like those of Linksys and Netgear
> > is "perceived" not powerful enough to keep the hackers away, then there are
> > "free" alternatives like Smoothwall, IPCop, and M0n0wall where you have
> > absolute control over their features. I have spent so many hours trying to
> > fix connectivity issues between computers that run software firewalls that in
> > retrospect, I should have focused on learning about these free but powerful
> > routers.
> >
> > If I am worried about access security within the LAN,, using XP Pro NTFS
> > security policies is more efficient. NTFS security has been around for a long
> > time so if there is a problem, I can find help easier online on sites like
> > this. The same cannot be said about software firewall. I am pretty sure that
> > the percentage of people who use NIS or ZoneAlarm is pretty small. Software
> > firewalls have become less practical for the basic users and more academic
> > for the networking gurus. As for me who have to run a computer network for a
> > living, free time to play around with all the arcane firewall features is a
> > luxury.
> >
> > Sorry for being off topic. Just want to let people know about how strongly I
> > feel about it.
> >
> >
> > "Mantis" wrote:
> >
> > > I have 2 XP machines. One is hard wired to my router using XP Pro, and the
> > > other is connected through a Wireless NIC using XP Home Edition. I can ping
> > > the XP Home computer from the XP Pro machine, but I can't ping the XP Pro
> > > machine from the XP Home machine. I made them under the same workgroup name,
> > > but only my XP Home machine can see both computers on the Workgroup, yet it
> > > still cannot access the XP Pro machine. I connected into the router and I
> > > can see both attached just fine and I don't see anything out of the ordinary
> > > in terms of the configuration of the router to indicate that the router is
> > > the cause of the problem. I disabled the XP firewalls on both machines and I
> > > even disabled my Norton's Internet Security as well. I also recently
> > > replaced the router but I was having the same problem on the previous router.
> > > Peer-to-Peer windows component is enabled on both machines. I even tried
> > > hard wiring the XP Home machine to see if it was the wireless NIC but it
> > > proved unsuccessful. I really don't know what else to try. Any help would
> > > be greatly appreciated. Thanks
.

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