RE: Can't enter 2 XP machines into a Workgroup
- From: Mantis <Mantis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:37:03 -0800
I totally hear, and I did try that, but it didn't work either. This is the
funny thing about all of this. A while back, I had my XP Home machine hard
wired to the network and the workgroup worked fine. But I had to reformat my
drive on it and unfortunately, the pegs that hold the ethernet cable in
snapped off so the cable keeps sliding out which is why I went to the
wireless USB NIC. I haven't needed the workgroup until now, but even just
holding the hard wire to the machine won't allow it to see the other computer
on the workgroup. I can get Internet access and I ping the gateway, so I
know the wire is good. I just don't know what else to try. Any help is
greatly appreciated.
"Techmanblues" wrote:
> Why not just uninstall NIS altogether and see what happens? Sometimes
> uninstalling the software firewall still does not completely remove it from
> the system. Firewalls like NIS modify Windows own security files. So who
> knows if NIS really put those files and settings back after uninstallation.
>
> From my experience, Norton's Internet Security is more trouble than it's
> worth. I have stopped using it and have been in smooth sailing in terms of
> sharing resources in a network. I mean what is the reaon for installing it in
> a computer anyway? The same goes for ZoneAlarm. The point of all this
> security measures is to prevent the outside world from hacking into the
> computers. Since all the computers in the network trust each other, why
> install NIS on some or all of them? Our attention should focus on permimeter
> security. Therefore, more attention should pay on the strength of the
> router/gateway. If a comsumer level router like those of Linksys and Netgear
> is "perceived" not powerful enough to keep the hackers away, then there are
> "free" alternatives like Smoothwall, IPCop, and M0n0wall where you have
> absolute control over their features. I have spent so many hours trying to
> fix connectivity issues between computers that run software firewalls that in
> retrospect, I should have focused on learning about these free but powerful
> routers.
>
> If I am worried about access security within the LAN,, using XP Pro NTFS
> security policies is more efficient. NTFS security has been around for a long
> time so if there is a problem, I can find help easier online on sites like
> this. The same cannot be said about software firewall. I am pretty sure that
> the percentage of people who use NIS or ZoneAlarm is pretty small. Software
> firewalls have become less practical for the basic users and more academic
> for the networking gurus. As for me who have to run a computer network for a
> living, free time to play around with all the arcane firewall features is a
> luxury.
>
> Sorry for being off topic. Just want to let people know about how strongly I
> feel about it.
>
>
> "Mantis" wrote:
>
> > I have 2 XP machines. One is hard wired to my router using XP Pro, and the
> > other is connected through a Wireless NIC using XP Home Edition. I can ping
> > the XP Home computer from the XP Pro machine, but I can't ping the XP Pro
> > machine from the XP Home machine. I made them under the same workgroup name,
> > but only my XP Home machine can see both computers on the Workgroup, yet it
> > still cannot access the XP Pro machine. I connected into the router and I
> > can see both attached just fine and I don't see anything out of the ordinary
> > in terms of the configuration of the router to indicate that the router is
> > the cause of the problem. I disabled the XP firewalls on both machines and I
> > even disabled my Norton's Internet Security as well. I also recently
> > replaced the router but I was having the same problem on the previous router.
> > Peer-to-Peer windows component is enabled on both machines. I even tried
> > hard wiring the XP Home machine to see if it was the wireless NIC but it
> > proved unsuccessful. I really don't know what else to try. Any help would
> > be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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