Re: Cannot access workgroup
- From: Chuck <none@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 7 Nov 2005 20:18:05 -0600
On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:35:15 -0800, "Joseph Carrier" <jercarrier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:s47vm15b9l4h0un2dqqfpe20hma93q2o73@xxxxxxxxxx
>> On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 00:44:07 -0800, "greyboomer"
>> <greyboomer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>"Joseph Carrier" wrote:
>>>
>>
>>>> "greyboomer" <greyboomer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:2343F314-CB65-47FB-90E7-9299A0BFCBE0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >I have a 2 computer workgroup through a D-Link DI 624c router. All was
>>>> >just
>>>> > fine untill about 2 weeks ago when one machine suddenly stopped being
>>>> > able
>>>> > to
>>>> > access the other in the workgroup. The WAN access never changed and
>>>> > it
>>>> > works
>>>> > fine.
>>>> > I have been through every diag. tool and technique I can find and
>>>> > everything
>>>> > reports back that I should not be having this problem, however I am.
>>>> > The
>>>> > only flaw I can find is when I use the Net View command. It searches
>>>> > for
>>>> > a
>>>> > while and then reports back with a 121 error (semaphore). Anybody
>>>> > have a
>>>> > clue for me on this one?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can't offer much help, but am intrigued that we experienced almost
>>>> the
>>>> exact same thing at about the same time. There are some differences: I
>>>> use
>>>> XP (home edition) and I use a NetGear WGR614 v4 router.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if these are different: my connection to the router is
>>>> cable
>>>> for the desktop and wireless for two laptops; the two laptops continue
>>>> to
>>>> see each other but so not see the desktop, and vice versa.)
>>>>
>>>> I can't say I've tried every diagnostic and technique, but I did try a
>>>> lot
>>>> of them without luck.
>>>>
>>>> Could our common problem have anything to do with Window XP Security
>>>> Updates
>>>> that were installed about two weeks ago? (I'm far from being a
>>>> technician,
>>>> so I don't know if such a thing is possible.)
>>>>
>>>> Six security updates were downloaded and installed on my desktop machine
>>>> On
>>>> October 16:
>>>>
>>>> KB896688 (a previous attempt to download this had failed on failed
>>>> on
>>>> October 14)
>>>> KB900725
>>>> KB905749
>>>> KB905414
>>>> KB901017
>>>> KB902400
>>>>
>>>> Did you install one or more of these just before you lost your workgroup
>>>> access?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I Thought that same thing at first about the Windows updates so I backed
>>>them
>>>all out and uninstalled and reinstalled Service Pac 2 all to no avail.
>>>Both
>>>my machines are hardwired to the router. I have uninstalled and
>>>reinstalled
>>>the network card with a new set of drivers downloaded from Dell, updated
>>>the
>>>firmware on the router, and said a novena to the god of Windows, and
>>>worked
>>>my way through PChucks sheets and nothing works. What I do know is
>>>something
>>>keeps resetting my node to unknown from Hybrid in my resistry and the Net
>>>commands show the machine is not part of the workgroup.
>>>
>>>I continue to suspect it was something in the updates but I am baffled why
>>>it only effected that one machine. I have installed all the updates on
>>>the
>>>other machine and it still works like a charm.
>>>
>>>If I stumble on the answer, I will be sure to post it here.
>>
>> Having worked your way thru PChucks sheets, did you run "browstat status"
>> and
>> "ipconfig /all" from each computer? Try and diagnose the problem, and
>> help
>> others to help you. If you're Catholic, maybe a novena will help you.
>> I'm
>> Methodist, so a casserole might help me. ;-)
>I intend to look into that, but first I need to get other things I fouled up
>back to "normal" again -- i.e.., see my posting of "Problem Comparing Shared
>Files." I do have to get some work done in between tests and experiments.
>
>You probably have a good reason for it, but when you respond and the bottom
>instead the top of a posting, it makes it clumsy for the reader to respond.
>Not so much criticizing as wondering why you do that. After passing the age
>of 75, people sort of feel they earned the privilege of making comments
>like this.)
Joseph,
In tech forums like this one, the serious helpers prefer bottom posting. I work
with maybe a dozen or more different threads like yours at any time, some with
multiple exchanges / day, others multiple days between exchanges. Sometimes the
different details from multiple threads gets confusing, so I've found it a VERY
good idea to intentionally review the history of each thread to prevent making
embarrassing and useless posts.
Reviewing from the top down is way easier, and allows me to help you better.
Sometimes I do that, and the person asking for help figures out how to respond
properly. And, if you leave the trimming (of prior posts) to me, I can trim
details when they become non-relevant. Being able to find details, by scanning
downward, is way easier than having to search thru the thread in another window.
You might find it more productive too - and after all, the object here is to
help you resolve your problem.
You're using Lookout Express though. That's one of the problems of OE, it
encourages folks to top post.
A: Maybe because some people are too annoyed by top-posting.
Q: Why do I not get an answer to my question(s)?
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Because it changes the order you read a conversation.
Q: Why is top-posting so annoying?
A: Top-posting!
Q: What is the most annoying thing in newsgroups?
Now you've got 2 threads open, and I keep thinking that your 2 are related in
some way. Having to switch back and forth between the two, to review the
problem, isn't easy. One person with 2 threads is almost as annoying as 2
people with one thread (ie hijacked thread).
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#Hijacking>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/how-to-post-on-usenet-and-encourage.html#Hijacking
--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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