Re: Default Browsers

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 20:16:35 -0800, "Joseph Carrier" <jercarrier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:bjnnm191l0db8ono44pqs4149qp34kupj5@xxxxxxxxxx
>> On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:13:17 -0800, "Joseph Carrier"
>> <jercarrier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>news:h6mkm1lgo6ekpn1sg6lh2qa5vr4bktcab1@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>> On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 10:10:29 -0800, "Joseph Carrier"
>>>> <jercarrier@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>news:hn2jm110m028m4m5160ll0mgal1rv8o208@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 19:49:21 -0800, "Joseph Carrier"
>>>>>> <*email_address_deleted*>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I'm still trying to solve a File-Sharing problem and have eliminated
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>Firewall as a problem. I thought I read somewhere in this newsgroup
>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>having a different default browser on two machines may prevent a
>>>>>>>file-sharing network from working properly. Is that the case?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If it is, I have a second question: How does one select a browser to
>>>>>>>be
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>"default?" I've tried but been unable to make the two machines to
>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>same default browser; one is now set at IE6 and the other is set at
>>>>>>>Firefox.
>>>>>>>I've been tinkering with both machines and can't seem get it right.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I would like to experiment with setting IE6 as the default browser on
>>>>>>>both
>>>>>>>machines. Would some kind reader of this note please post a
>>>>>>>step-by-step
>>>>>>>procedure for getting this done?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Many thanks,
>>>>>>>Joseph Carrier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joseph,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What you're talking about is a master browser. Having 2 master
>>>>>> browsers
>>>>>> in a
>>>>>> workgroup is like having 2 bosses in a company. Some servers report
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> master browser, and some to another. Depending upon which client
>>>>>> you're
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> (viewing Network Neighborhood from), you'll see the various servers
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> report
>>>>>> to the master browser that the client uses.
>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>
>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don't confuse the browser subsystem (which populates Network
>>>>>> Neighborhood) with the program used for surfing the web. Those are 2
>>>>>> different
>>>>>> functions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, if you're having a file sharing problem, provide some detail
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp
>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html>
>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or try diagnosing the problem.
>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
>>>>
>>>>>(Sorry -- I pushed the wrong button and this reply did not go to the
>>>>>Group,
>>>>>as I had intended so I am now repeating it here.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks. I had thought that was referring to the Internet browsers, and
>>>>>I
>>>>>guess it did not (I use two: Firefox and IE6.)
>>>>>
>>>>>Here's my setup and the problem:
>>>>>
>>>>>Three WinXP SP2 (Home Edition) computers connected (directly) into an
>>>>>ADSL
>>>>>router. This works. The two laptops are connected wirelessly and the
>>>>>desktop is connected with an Ethernet cable.
>>>>>
>>>>>A File Sharing network is set up on all three computers. This does not
>>>>>work. The two laptops see each other but not the desktop. The desktop
>>>>>cannot see the two laptops.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think I've eliminated a Firewall as the problem. The same
>>>>>file-sharing
>>>>>problem persists with no firewall functioning at all -- even after
>>>>>uninstalling the AVG Firewall on my desktop and reconfiguring the
>>>>>file-sharing network on all three machines. (The two laptops use only
>>>>>the
>>>>>Windows Firewall.)
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm completely stumped. Everything worked for months until a couple of
>>>>>weeks ago. The only significant thing I changed in the system before
>>>>>the
>>>>>Desktop dropped from the view of the two laptops was to install the
>>>>>Google
>>>>>Earth program, fiddle with to try to get it to connect to the Google
>>>>>Serve,
>>>>>failed with that, and then uninstalled the new Google Earth program. I
>>>>>think something done in that whole process might possibly have messed up
>>>>>my
>>>>>previously working file-sharing network.
>>>>>
>>>>>This may be a clue: I tried "repairing" the "LAN or high speed internet"
>>>>>connection on my desktop, but that raised the error message that it
>>>>>couldn't
>>>>>finish the repair because 'cannot clear the DNS Cache.' I don't know if
>>>>>that's significant or what to do about it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Would appreciate suggestions about what to look for now.
>>>>
>>>> Joseph,
>>>>
>>>> Provide relevant data here, and we'll diagnose the problem.
>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html
>>
>>>Thanks for the suggestions.
>>>
>>>Unfortunately the URL references in your response tend lose me as I try to
>>>progress from one to the other. By now, I have several file-folders of
>>>printouts from your Blog. I've studied all of them carefully without
>>>getting any closer to understanding my problem -- indeed, I may have
>>>become
>>>even more confused.
>>>
>>>For example, with respect to your Usenet posting and Blogs on "Browsers,"
>>>I
>>>still don't understand whether or not my using two internet browsers (IE6
>>>and Firefox,) has any relevance to my file-sharing networking problem.
>>>
>>>Let me refer explicitly to one of the many sections of your blog that
>>>I've
>>>studied: Chuck's Network Irregularities in Workgroup Visibility:" While
>>>trying to follow your instructions there, I've progressed as follows:
>>>
>>>1. I've pretty well eliminated a personal firewall as part of the problem
>>>by
>>>working with the software company that provides my firewall (Grisom>) and
>>>the problem persists whether or not I have any Firewall.
>>>
>>>2. I don't know how to go about checking for an "anonymous access block."
>>>Any hints?
>>>
>>>3. I've studied the "ipconfig/all" outputs of the three Work Group
>>>computers and the one for my desktop looks very strange indeed --
>>>especially
>>>in contrast the output of the two laptops. But, I really don't know how
>>>to
>>>interpret what I see. What do you suggest I do then: post on this Usenet
>>>forum the whole ipconfig/all reports for the desktop and ask "What's wrong
>>>(if anything) with this?"
>>>
>>>I haven't yet gotten to the download "browstat" part because I'm almost
>>>certain that I'll run into the same road blocks as I have with the
>>>"ipconfig/all" report: I won't know how to interpret the report or how to
>>>frame questions about it.
>>>
>>>I'm convinced that you're very knowledgeable, but I'm afraid you're way
>>>over
>>>the head of even the long-time, typical, computer user.
>>>
>>>What is your suggestion for me, given the above? Be polite, now!
>>
>> Joseph,
>>
>> From reading your other thread "How to Clean DSN Cache?", it appears that
>> your
>> immediate problem is the presence of IPV6 aka Teredo Tunneling on your
>> computers. Please start by removing that. Instructions are in this
>> article:
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html

>Many thanks. I've now gone through, very carefully, the instructions in
>your "But Clean Up The Protocol Stack First" for both the desktop and my
>traveling laptop (I'm going to leave my wife's laptop out of this to reduce
>the work a bit.
>
>The ipconfig/all on the two computers now differ only slightly:
>
>Under Windows IP Configuration:
> Each computer has its own computer name as the Host Name.
> "Node Type" on the desktop is "unknown" and on the laptop it is
>"Mixed."
> IP Routing enabled and Win Proxy enable is "no" on both computers.
>
>The Network Connection description on the desktop is "Intel Pro/q00 UE
>Network Connection" and on the laptop it's "NETGEAR WG511 54 Mbps Wireless
>PC Connection." the physical address is different on the two machines,
>which I guess is to be expected.
>
>"Dhcp Enabled" and "Autoconfiguration Enabled" is yes on both machines.
>
>The IP address on the two machines differs by four in the last digit.
>
>"Default Gateway," "DHCP Server," and "DNS Servers." are the same on the
>two machines. "DNS Servers."
>
>I can ping the desktop from the laptop, but cannot ping the laptop from the
>desktop.
>
>I guess I'm imposing, but I'm very old, slow, and forgetful, thus greatly in
>need of reassurance, so I'll ask the following questions now:
> Does anything in the above look anomalous to you?
> Would you confirm for me the URL for the PChuck Blog which explains
>my next step?
>
> Thanks again.

Joseph,

So what you're saying (and please verify each statement):
1) You did have IPV6 on one or more computers. If so, which ones?
2) You did remove IPV6 on each computer that it was on, per my article.
3) The symptoms are unchanged. If changed, what specifically is different?

After you verify each of the above, please continue with my initial article, and
provide "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each computer, unedited and
unmunged in any way.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

Since your wife's laptop is on the network, it should be considered as part of
the problem. We will need to include it in the testing, if only as a control.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#Four>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/08/solving-network-problems-tutorial.html#Four

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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