Re: Networking...

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 18:54:38 -0500, "Michael A Goodfellow"
<mikegoodfellow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:71p9m1p135s7t9sbnpduuuakcvmdf2hhl3@xxxxxxxxxx
>> On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 16:29:14 -0400, "Michael A Goodfellow"
>> <*email_address_deleted*> wrote:
>>
>>>"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 11:56:41 -0400, "Michael A Goodfellow"
>>>> <mikegoodfellow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>news:0042m1pm4f6f0nsokufs7srqo046rijk5g@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:57:45 -0400, "Michael A Goodfellow"
>>>>>> <here@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:<hl6dl1lnhcrmj1n9lo0o6ctcundsejir68@xxxxxxx>...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:58:35 -0400, "Michael A Goodfellow"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <here@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <SNIP>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Here's the status:
>>>>>>>>>Computer 1 (Mine) can see Computer 2 on My Network Places now. Vice
>>>>>>>>>versa
>>>>>>>>>for Computer 1.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Computer 1 can see Computers 2 and 3 on the workgroups, while
>>>>>>>>>Computer
>>>>>>>>>2
>>>>>>>>>can
>>>>>>>>>see 1 and 3.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Computer 1 and 2 have a shared documents folder and a My Documents
>>>>>>>>>folder
>>>>>>>>>which are set to allowed anyone in the workgroup to access them.
>>>>>>>>>Computer
>>>>>>>>>1
>>>>>>>>>can access both folders with no problem on Computer 2. Computer 2,
>>>>>>>>>however,
>>>>>>>>>can only access the Shared Documents folder on 1. I've set the
>>>>>>>>>permissions
>>>>>>>>>for both folders.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Computer 3 cannot see 1 or 2 on the My Network Places or the
>>>>>>>>>workgroups.
>>>>>>>>>When I try to do such, I get a message which winds up with "The list
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>servers on this workgroup is not currently available."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks again for all of your help.
>>>>>>>>>-Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These are classic symptoms of browser problems. Read the articles
>>>>>>>> referenced
>>>>>>>> above. After we look at "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" for
>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>> computer, CDiag might be the next step. But start diagnosing the
>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Alright...I've got the information you've requested.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BTW- Thanks for all of your help in this...You are a great resource
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>assistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <SNIP Diagnostics>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What it looks like I need to do is to start over as far as Computers 1
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>2
>>>>>>>are concerned with a different network name and resolve the 2 server
>>>>>>>issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't understand about Computer 3 not connecting to the workgroup
>>>>>>>except
>>>>>>>that since both Computer 1 and 2 think they're the servers, Computer 3
>>>>>>>ma
>>>>>>>not be able to connect to 2 servers within the same workgroup?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-Mike
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK, Mike,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far, what I see is:
>>>>>> # All 3 computers are on the same subnet (192.168.2.0/24), and are
>>>>>> getting
>>>>>> settings from the same DHCP server (192.168.2.1).
>>>>>> # Lard*** can't resolve the address of Dell8200dimensi (and we don't
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> Carol).
>>>>>> # Both Dell8200dimensi and Lard*** are getting browser / server
>>>>>> datagrams
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> each other.
>>>>>> # Carol isn't getting browser datagrams from Dell8200dimensi.
>>>>>> (Guessing)
>>>>>> Dell8200dimensi isn't getting server datagrams from Carol.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Problems that you don't have:
>>>>>> # There is no name resolution configuration problem (Hybrid and
>>>>>> Unknown
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> fine).
>>>>>> # There are no gratuitous protocols, such as IPV6, IPX/SPX, or
>>>>>> NetBEUI.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is NetBIOS Over TCP/IP Enabled on Carol? Not Default, make sure it's
>>>>>> Enabled.
>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#Components>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Beyond that, I'll once again advise you to check for misconfigured /
>>>>>> overlooked
>>>>>> firewalls, and for registry setting restrictanonymous, on each
>>>>>> computer.
>>>>>> Carol
>>>>>> is the best suspect here.
>>>>>> Misconfigured / overlooked firewalls:
>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
>>>>>> Registry setting restrictanonymous:
>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then check Carol for LSP / Winsock / TCP/IP corruption.
>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that doesn't do it, we'll dig a bit deeper. But the above is what
>>>>>> comes to
>>>>>> mind most readily.
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Chuck
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for your help...Here's the update:
>>>>>Computer 1 and 2 can share files with no problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>What ended up to be the case was that the My Documents folder on
>>>>>Computer
>>>>>1
>>>>>did not have a 'Everyone' Group or User Name listed in the Security
>>>>>panel
>>>>>for Sharing and Security. D'oh!
>>>>>
>>>>>Still, however, neither Computer 1 nor 2 can see Computer 3 and vice
>>>>>versa.
>>>>>When I try to add the folders from Computers 1 and 2 onto Computer 3, I
>>>>>get
>>>>>no list past our network name. I've turned off the Windows Firewall on
>>>>>all
>>>>>three for now, with no change.
>>>>>
>>>>>I checked Carol (Computer 3) for the LSP/Winsock/TCPIP Corruption and
>>>>>that's
>>>>>all good. The computer is less than a month old, so I didn't suspect
>>>>>corruption. (Maybe there's a setting from the factory I'm not sure of.
>>>>>It's a Dell.)
>>>>>
>>>>>I checked the Restrict Anonymous and had to reset the
>>>>>restrictanonymoussam
>>>>>and restarted...No change
>>>>>
>>>>>Finally, I made sure NetBIOS Over TCP/IP is set for enabled.
>>>>>
>>>>>Time to dig deeper?
>>>>>-Mike
>>>>
>>>> OK, Mike,
>>>>
>>>> What is the DNS server on 192.168.1.254? How are you connected to the
>>>> Internet
>>>> anyway?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Take the following code (everything inside the "#####"). (Please verify
>>>> computer
>>>> names and ip addresses).
>>
>> <SNIP CDiag code, and generated diagnostics>
>>
>> OK, Mike,
>>
>> You have a very interesting situation. Your computer (Lard***) is
>> responding
>> to queries against 192.168.2.102 (the IP address for Carol, per ipconfig
>> for
>> Carol). Your Mom'c computer (Carol) is not responding to name resolution
>> queries at all.
>>
>> I will be back online late afternoon your time, and I will continue
>> analysis
>> then. Please check both your computer, and your Mom's computer, against
>> the
>> advice in my article:
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/irregularities-in-workgroup-visibility.html

Mike,

Well, I'm not sure what the actual problem is - but I'm betting that your Mom's
computer is part of it. What computer did you run the initial diagnostics on?
Start by checking for misconfigured / overlooked firewalls, and for registry
setting restrictanonymous, on each computer.
Misconfigured / overlooked firewalls:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
Registry setting restrictanonymous:
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/07/restrictanonymous-and-your-server.html>

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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