Re: Workgroups



"Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:

> In article <18E770A6-68F6-4850-AC0F-A070C4969620@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "scootguy" <scootguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> >I'm trying to do something that may not even be possible, so I'd appreciate
> >> >any direction as to whether or not I should even pursue it. I have a desktop
> >> >and a laptop connected wirelessly as workgroup homenet. That was working
> >> >fine, but then I decided I also wanted to connect them through a wired router
> >> >with the default workgroup mshome. I need to know if this can be done.
> >> >Also, is there any way to list the workgroups? It's easy enough to create
> >> >them via the wizard but it would be nice if they could be listed so that they
> >> >could be modified or deleted.
> >>
> >> Why do you want to use a different workgroup name for the wired and
> >> wireless setups? I see no benefit to doing that.
> >
> >I assumed it was necessary - otherwise I don't know how the computers would
> >know to use the wired or wireless network.
> >
> >> Workgroup membership is a property of the computer, not the network
> >> connections. A computer can only be a member of one workgroup at a
> >> time. There's no association between network connections and
> >> workgroups. It isn't possible to have the wired connection in one
> >> workgroup and the wireless connection in another workgroup.
> >
> >Is there any way to network these computers both wired and wirelessly at the
> >same time?
> >
> >> A network can have more than one active workgroup. For example, the
> >> desktop can be in "homenet" and the laptop can be in "mshome" at the
> >> same time. A computer in any workgroup can access a computer in any
> >> workgroup.
> >
> >I would just as soon have them both be in homenet.
> >
> >> To see all of the workgroups currently on a network:
> >>
> >> 1. Open My Network Places.
> >> 2. Click "View workgroup computers".
> >> 3. Press the Backspace key.
> >>
> >> To access another computer directly, regardless of which workgroup
> >> either computer is in, type the other computer's name in the Start |
> >> Run box in this format:
> >>
> >> \\computer
> >
> >Thanks for your help!
>
> You're welcome. It's possible, but tricky, to use two network
> connections between computers simultaneously. I do it on my home
> network. My two main computers connect to the Internet through
> connections to a wireless router, and they connect to each other via
> an IEEE 1394 connection for fast file transfer.
>
> If two network connections use the same IP address range (e.g. wired
> and wireless connections to the same wired router), the easiest
> solution is to enable the connection that you want to use at a
> particular time and disable the one that you don't want to use.
>
> To use both connections simultaneously, they must have different IP
> address ranges. For example, I use 192.168.123.x for the wireless
> router connection and 10.x.x.x for the FireWire connection.
>
> To access another computer using a specific network connection, use
> the connection's IP address, not the computer name. I've assigned
> static IP addresses 192.168.123.100 and 10.0.0.2 to my main computer.
> To access it from the second computer via the wireless router, I type
> "\\192.168.123.100" in the Start | Run box. To access it from the
> second computer via the IEEE 1394 connection, I type "\\10.0.0.2" in
> the Start | Run box.
>
> I don't know of a way to control which connection is used when
> accessing another computer through My Network Places.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
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> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
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Thanks again - I was able to do exactly what I wanted to do. Since my
routers use different subnets I didn't have to change anything there. And,
specifying the IP address instead of the computer name allows me to force the
connection through the wired router. In case you're wondering, I went
through this exercise for much the same reason as you - I wanted to backup my
laptop to my desktop and the wireless connection couldn't seem to handle it.
Doing it through the wired connection works quite well.
.

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