Re: view workgroup computers

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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 16:45:03 +0930, "Li'l Roberto" <whoisit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>> Robert,
>>
>> OK, let me summarise what you're reporting, then describe what we're
>> looking
>> for.
>>
>> You are observing latency, and pretty consistent latency. Pentium3, when
>> starting Windows Explorer, waits 15 - 20 seconds before displaying the
>> contents
>> of Network Neighborhood. This only occurs when the firewall on Roberto,
>> the
>> server, is on.
>>
>> When Windows Explorer is open on Roberto, and displays the identical
>> shares,
>> this latency does NOT occur. Windows Explorer on Roberto, regardless of
>> firewalls on either computer, does NOT exhibit any latency.
>>
>> Latency might be caused by one of two things - resource unavailability,
>> and
>> network timeout. So for one, we want to watch activity on both Pentium3
>> and
>> Roberto while the latency is observed. For the other, I was looking for a
>> network issue, such as maybe name resolution.
>>
>> Now name resolution could be an issue, if you were attempting server based
>> resolution on a network with no WINS server. The Unknown node type, on a
>> WINS
>> network, will be treated like Hybrid, or H-node, which will attempt to use
>> a
>> WINS server; if no server is available, will try Broadcast resolution.
>> <http://support.microsoft.com/?id=160177>
>>
>> But you have removed all references to WINS (ie, you cleaned up the WINS
>> proxy
>> issue), and the latency continues.
>>
>> So we're left wondering what service is being blocked by the firewall.
>> You
>> state that you have File and Printer Sharing enabled, for the subnet, in
>> Windows
>> Firewall.
>>
>> The above is a brief summary of my thoughts. Is this in agreement with
>> your
>> observations? I will be rethinking all of these issues for a while,
>> looking for
>> additional question, and for corrections.
>>
>> What is the history of Pentium3 and Roberto? How long have they been in
>> use?
>> How long have they been in use with this network configuration? And
>> special
>> software on either, now or in the past?
>>
>> Hopefully some of the above questions will prompt questions from you.
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>Chuck
>again thanks for you time ,you are spot on with your understanding of
>the problem,
>Roberto as been up for around six months and is fully patched, it's
>my main PC and runs
>
> MYOB, OfficeXP, ECI Client [ability to logon to the Australian Tax
>Office Server and do Tax related transactions on line], Wall Watcher,
>Adobe Reader,
>Sun Java [required for ECI Client ], Firefly, Dot NET [all updates], PC
>Eye web Cam software, Google World. NASA World Wind, Nero Express
>DVD/CD-RW,Messenger, Spy Bot S&D, Ad-Aware F-PROT for Windows, that's about
>it.
>FWIW I have created Peer to PEER LANs with XP home [never Pro though]
>based PCs in the past since Roberto was built, with out this problem
>occurring, I noticed the problem as soon as Pentium3 was setup to
>join Roberto.
>Pentium3 is a fresh built system, no other software installed.
>
>Robert

>Chuck
>Here is some additional info on the problem, given that in the past
>XPHE to XPHE never produced this slowness, I decided to install Win98SE
>on Pentium3 out of curiosity. The problem did not appear, so it seems
>as if it is something to do with the XP Pro installation ?.
>Does this give you some thing more to work on as to what might be
>causing the problem.
>
>Robert

Robert,

So now you have a Windows XP Home server (Roberto), and a Windows 98 client
(Pentium3)? And the problem has been resolved?

If that's true, then the problem would appear to be related to the install of
Windows XP Pro on Pentium3. Unfortunately, you have destroyed any traces of the
problem.

I guess the next question is whether re installing XP Pro on Pentium3 will
restore the problem? If you're up for that, being as you paid for Windows XP
Pro, right?

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.
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