Re: Networks

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"David Kelsey" <david_kelseyNO@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>I did have a problem with setting up a USB2 VPN, but no-one in this group
>had had any experience with this, so I struggled with trial and error until
>eventually I have a two-computer network that works, albeit rather slowly
>sometimes. The point I am making is that if I, a 75-year-old user with 25
>years of experience of computing, but no experience of networks, can set it
>up, it ought to be a piece of cake for a computer, don't you think? They
>do much more complicated things than that, surely, like word processing,
>and spreadsheets and so on, which just work when you install them, and
>continue to work for years. And yes, I am venting, because there is no
>other way that I know of to express an opinion or seek an improvement. I
>used to send stuff to the MS wishlist, but that is like the Bermuda
>Triangle. I can't e-mail Bill, because I gather he gets 4 million mails a
>day, and he might not have time to read mine. I just hope that someone
>from MS will read this stuff and push for something to be done. There must
>be some way in which they can respond to users' feelings and opinions.
>Maybe they should add a group for venting (barred to Linux and Mac users of
>course, or it would end up like ZD Net.)
>
> David
>

By your own admission this is a very uncommon setup. Windows is bloated
enough without MS trying to forsee every conceivable option and making sure
it works automatically. If you have 25 years experience with computers you
have seen all the improvements along the way and must realise that although
computers are easier to use than 25 years ago they are still not at the
appliance level. There are many ways that Windows could be improved and made
easier for the general public. Somehow I think that setting up a VPN over
USB is not at the top of the list. By the way if you are only networking two
computers why is a VPN needed? I think you may have your terms confused. A
VPN is a Virtual Private Network usually set up for private communications
over a larger public network (i.e. the Internet).


Kerry


>
> "Malke" <invalid@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> David Kelsey wrote:
>>
>>> I know this is strictly not the right place to ask this, but does
>>> anyone know why Microsoft seem to give us so much trouble in setting
>>> up a network? Is there some overwhelming issue that prevents this task
>>> being just a matter
>>> of a few mouse clicks? I have never seen so many similar problems in
>>> one
>>> newsgroup before, not since the days of SP1. Doesn't this indicate a
>>> distinct failure in programming skills by the huge brains at MS? At
>>> the end of the day, people sort out the problems in the field, so why
>>> can't our computers sort them out for us?
>>>
>>> David Kelsey
>>
>> You have to remember that this is a tech support newsgroup and so you
>> aren't seeing posts about how great someone's computer works. If you go
>> to a hospital, you'll see a lot of sick people. Does that mean
>> everybody in town is sick?
>>
>> I can't answer your question about why it isn't more brain-dead-easy to
>> set up networking in XP because I'm not a programmer and I don't work
>> for Microsoft. However, I can tell you that it isn't that hard to do
>> either, although many people seem to think computers should be as easy
>> to operate as toasters. Computers are marketed like that, but it isn't
>> true. Computers are complex and powerful machines that require a little
>> more knowledge to use than is required to toast bread.
>>
>> Are you having a problem you'd like help with or are you just venting?
>>
>> Malke
>> --
>> Elephant Boy Computers
>> www.elephantboycomputers.com
>> "Don't Panic!"
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
>


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