Re: network with 98se's.

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"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:58:11 -0500, "L/P" <ofallon12320@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 20:14:13 -0500, "L/P" <ofallons12320@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>news:orq0c1t0sjokn5a1iomig28vijldl49p8j@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:58:30 -0500, "L/P" <ofallon12320@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:jdo0c1hst6sn1d1so5pfc7bhgv17qkjgfu@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:15:48 -0500, "L/P" <ofallon12320@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Chuch.
>>>>>>>>Hope you had a good week-end.
>>>>>>>>Should we continue?
>>>>>>>>L.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please start by rerunning "ipconfig /all" on all 3 computers, and
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> sure that
>>>>>>> all of each gets posted precisely as provided. Don't hand type, be
>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>> to copy
>>>>>>> and paste.
>>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Next, we need to figure out what the equivalent of "net view" is on
>>>>>>> Windows 98.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>> Paranoia is not a problem - it's a normal response from experience.
>>>>>>> My email is AT DOT
>>>>>>> actual address pchuck sonic net.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here is ipconfig /all for all 3 system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>wabash1 (wb1, the xp system)
>>>>>>**********************************************************************
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
>>>>>>(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>C:\Documents and Settings\User>ipconfig /all
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Windows IP Configuration
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Wabash1
>>>>>> Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>>>>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>>>>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>>>>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>>>>>> Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
>>>>>>Adapter
>>>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0F-EA-17-C8-81
>>>>>> Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>>>> Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>>>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.34
>>>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>>>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 24.217.0.5
>>>>>> 24.217.0.55
>>>>>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, June 27, 2005
>>>>>> 8:03:21
>>>>>> AM
>>>>>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Thursday, June 30, 2005
>>>>>> 8:03:21
>>>>>>AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>C:\Documents and Settings\User>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>******************************************************************************
>>>>>>
>>>>>>wabash2, (98se system that isn't playing with others) (wireless)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Host Name . . . . . . . . . : WABASH2
>>>>>> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . : 24.217.0.5
>>>>>> 24.217.0.55
>>>>>> Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
>>>>>> NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
>>>>>> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
>>>>>> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
>>>>>> NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
>>>>>>
>>>>>>0 Ethernet adapter :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Description . . . . . . . . : TNET1130
>>>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-0F-B5-46-06-1A
>>>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.40
>>>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
>>>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>>>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
>>>>>> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
>>>>>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 06 27 05 3:27:00 PM
>>>>>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>C:\WINDOWS>
>>>>>>*********************************************************
>>>>>>
>>>>>>wabash3 (98se thats working ok)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
>>>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
>>>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . :
>>>>>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
>>>>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
>>>>>> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
>>>>>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
>>>>>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1 Ethernet adapter :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-40-F4-62-F1-91
>>>>>> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
>>>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.39
>>>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>>>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>>>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>>>> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
>>>>>> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
>>>>>> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . : 06 27 05 9:41:07 AM
>>>>>> Lease Expires . . . . . . . : 06 30 05 9:41:07 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>C:\WINDOWS>
>>>>>>************************************************************************
>>>>>>Note: I ran ipconfig /all from the ms dos prompt on the 98 systems,
>>>>>>copied
>>>>>>and pasted into notepad, but not sure if the info ran off the screen.
>>>>>>wb3
>>>>>>doesn't show same info as wb2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>L.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you run "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt", you shouldn't have to
>>>>> copy
>>>>> and
>>>>> paste into Notepad. Just run "notepad c:\ipconfig.txt" next.
>>>>>
>>>>> But here's your problem.
>>>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.40
>>>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
>>>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>>>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>>>
>>>>> That's why I asked if you were copying, or hand typing. It's
>>>>> acknowledging the
>>>>> DHCP server, so where is it coming up with that subnet mask?
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe it's time to review all the options in the LSP / Winsock
>>>>> corruption
>>>>> issue.
>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>>>>> Paranoia is not a problem - it's a normal response from experience.
>>>>> My email is AT DOT
>>>>> actual address pchuck sonic net.
>>>>
>>>>Read you article on
>>>>http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/problems-with-lsp-winsock-layer-in.html
>>>>but isn't this for XP systems?
>>>>How about 98se's?
>>>>
>>>>L.
>>>>
>>> It's mostly for XP. WinsockFix works for Windows 9x, and I think
>>> LSP-Fix
>>> does.
>>>
>>> Reloading TCP/IP may be a bit tricky though. Can you find your Windows
>>> Cab
>>> directory?
>>> <http://support.lanset.com/troubleshooting/tcpwin9598.htm>
>>>
>>> Most of the folks I help have Windows XP systems. Let's try what we can
>>> here,
>>> if we can't figure it out, then you might want to try posting in
>>> microsoft.public.win98.networking and see if there's any help available
>>> there.
>>>
>>> I don't think you'll find as much traffic in mpw98n and you do here in
>>> mpwxnw,
>>> but you might want to start browsing thru there - there are a number of
>>> references to "reload tcp/ip, I don't know what will work for you.
>>>
>>> The subnet mask discrepancy is definitely one problem you gotta solve
>>> though.
>>> Or you'll end up (gasp) having to load NetBEUI on all computers.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> Chuck
>>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
>>> Paranoia is not a problem - it's a normal response from experience.
>>> My email is AT DOT
>>> actual address pchuck sonic net.
>>
>>questions to catch up.
>>
>>1. What is "wrong" with the Subnet Mask setting on wb2?
>>********************************
>>But here's your problem.
>>>>>> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.40
>>>>>> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
>>>>>> Default Gateway . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>>>>> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>>*******************************
>>It appears the subnet Mask setting should be 255.255.255.0 as is wb1 &
>>wb3....
>>
>>
>>When I compare the setting (ipconfig /all) for the 3 systems, esp. wb2 &
>>wb3(98se's) the information is not the same.
>>wb3- there are two IP Address and Subnet Mask settings. WINS Proxy is
>>"YES"
>>on wb1 but not wb2.
>>There is no Node Type, WINS Proxy showing on wb3.
>>2. Is this "normal"?
>
> I don't know a lot about Windows 9x, unfortunately. And I can't look at
> your
> computers directly, only thru your hands and eyes.
>
> We need to figure out what's different between Wabash2 and Wabash3.
>
> A WINS Proxy is a computer that can help resolve name queries for
> computers that
> aren't WINS enabled, on a network that uses WINS. Since you don't have
> WINS,
> this isn't useful to you. Wabash1 is Unknown, and Wabash2 is Broadcast -
> these
> are compatible.
> <http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/2000/server/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/windows/2000/server/reskit/en-us/cnet/cncd_win_vzlw.asp>
> <http://support.microsoft.com/?id=160177>
>
> Look at the components listed in Local Area Connection - Properties on all
> 3
> computers. Compare the list on each, and list here.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem - it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck sonic net.

You're not going to believe this BUT wb2 is working........

When I had the power failure yesterday, everything was "online".
When I came in this AM and powered up all system, wb2 (ZA) said I had a new
internet connect address. I gave it permission to connect and now I can see
and get into all system/files that are set for sharing.
Ran ipconfig /all and the Sunet Mask on wb2 and the Subnet Mask is now
255.255.255.0

What is going on??
Believe me, I'm not complaining but would like to know what happened.
Maybe you should post a way to "fix" something is wait for a power failure.
:-)

Oh, good morning..

L.


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