Re: network with 98se's.
- From: "L/P" <ofallon1232000@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 13:47:47 -0500
>>>>>>>>New to networking so here is a "detailed" description of setup.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>5 xp home ed., 1x acting as server and 2x 98se.
>>>>>>>>1x cable modem, 1x Linksys 5 port router and 1x Belkin
>>>>>>>>wired/wireless
>>>>>>>>router. Workgroup=Mshome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This was originally set up with 4 xp's in office#1 working fine,
>>>>>>>>3(including
>>>>>>>>server) hooked into the Linksys and 1 into the Belkin.
>>>>>>>>The Belkin is hooked into the Linksys. Not sure if this is the
>>>>>>>>"best"
>>>>>>>>setup
>>>>>>>>but it's working for them so I can't change anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Office#2 (1xp and the 2x98se) were just added. Ran Netsetup.exe on
>>>>>>>>both
>>>>>>>>98
>>>>>>>>systems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Office#2 only,
>>>>>>>>the xp(wabash1) see's the 3 systems from office#1(alt1, alt2, alt3),
>>>>>>>>server
>>>>>>>>and one 98se(wabash3). The 98se(wabash3) see everything also.
>>>>>>>>Wabash1(xp) and 3(98se) are connected to the Linksys router.
>>>>>>>>The other 98se(wabash2) is in a back office so installed a Netgear
>>>>>>>>wireless
>>>>>>>>PCI adapter, left in the Aopen ethernet card??, and it's connecting
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>Belkin router which, again, is connected to the Linksys router.
>>>>>>>>All systems have internet access, no problem.
>>>>>>>>All system have NAV 2005 and Zone Alarm. Uninstalled ZA, set up
>>>>>>>>network/system and then reinstalled.
>>>>>>>>I tried to use the same setting from wabash3 to wabash2 but not
>>>>>>>>connecting.
>>>>>>>>tpc/ip setting, master brower is disabled, etc.etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Additional findings,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>We tried a laptop(xp wireless) through the Belkin and it works fine.
>>>>>>>>When I open Network Neig. on wabash3, I can see everything except
>>>>>>>>wabash2.
>>>>>>>>BUT when I click on Wabash1 get the following error msg.
>>>>>>>>"//wabash1 is not accessible.
>>>>>>>>The computer or sharename could not be found. make sure you typed it
>>>>>>>>correctly, and try again."
>>>>>>>>Also, on wabash2 (98 not connecting), when I open NN all that shows
>>>>>>>>up
>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>the Entire Network icon. on the other 98 (#3) it has text down the
>>>>>>>>left
>>>>>>>>side.
>>>>>>>>Not sure if this is helpful or not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Any suggestions please,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Suggestions please,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any time you combine Windows 9x (95, 98, ME) and Windows NT (NT,
>>>>>>> 2000,
>>>>>>> XP,
>>>>>>> 2003)
>>>>>>> on a LAN, you have to expect problems with Network Neighborhood.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> browser
>>>>>>> (subsystem that populates the NN display) on Windows 9x and Windows
>>>>>>> NT
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> work the same, and will conflict. The conflicts, as your
>>>>>>> observation
>>>>>>> shows,
>>>>>>> aren't always consistent.
>>>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/windows-9x-9598me-and-browser.html>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for getting back sooo soon. I turned off the "Master Browser"
>>>>>>in
>>>>>>both
>>>>>>98 machine but will check other setup, How do I disable master
>>>>>>browsing
>>>>>>in
>>>>>>Windows? or Win98 Trouble Shooting. when I get back to work tomorrow
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>report findings to see if I can get the 98se system up and running on
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>network.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>L.
>>>>>
>>>>> Disabling the browser on Windows NT:
>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html#Prevent>
>>>>>
>>>>> Checking for browser conflict from Windows NT:
>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> Make sure you don't have a misconfigured or forgotten firewall:
>>>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
>>>
>>>>Checked everything "suggested" and still not sure what to do.
>>>>Since I have one 98se system connecting to all systems, except the
>>>>other98se, I thought it might be best to work on one problem/system at a
>>>>time.
>>>>
>>>>The only problem I'm having with wabash3 (98se that does connect) is
>>>>when
>>>>I
>>>>go into NN and click on wabash1 (my xp machine) I get the following
>>>>error
>>>>msg.
>>>>
>>>>"//wabash1 is not accessible.
>>>>The computer or sharename could not be found. make sure you typed it
>>>>correctly, and try again."
>>>>
>>>>Also noticed when I click on one of the other machine, office01, I get
>>>>the
>>>>following screen msg;
>>>>
>>>>Enter network password
>>>>you must supply a password to make this connect.
>>>>Resourse: \\office01\ipc$
>>>>password:
>>>>(Not worried about getting into other systems, office1,2,3,server.
>>>>Trying
>>>>to
>>>>connect my systems wabash1,2,3.)
>>>>
>>>>I can get into/open other computers(office02,03 and server) with no
>>>>problem.
>>>>
>>>>L.
>>>
>>> OK, the IPC$ error when trying to connect to office01, is
>>> authentication.
>>> You
>>> need to enable the Guest account on all XP computers that you want to
>>> access.
>>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Activate>
>>>
>>> If you're sure that you disabled the browser on both Windows 98
>>> computers,
>>> then
>>> run "browstat status" on all Windows XP computers, and make sure that
>>> they
>>> all
>>> report the same master browser. Multiple master browsers will cause
>>> this
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> You say all systems have NAV 2005. Is that NAV the standalone product,
>>> or
>>> did
>>> you install Norton Internet Security?
>
>>1.
>>Since the "other" system(Ofallon1,2,3) and server belong to a business
>>partner AND his system was and is running OK, I may have a problem
>>"messing"
>>with it. ;-) He has an insurance office, mine in real-estate and he needs
>>his system up and running 24/7 so he may have problems with me going over
>>and trying to make any changes to his system.
>>I don't care if I can get into the system(ofallon1) that's gives me the
>>IPC$
>>error/msg. In fact, I'd just as soon stay out of it unless it may be
>>causing
>>problems with my systems hooking up.
>>As far as getting into my xp system (see problem with wabash3(98se)
>>connecting to wabash1(xp)), can/should I enable guest account on it so the
>>98se can get into the files? It's a different msg. so not sure if this is
>>the problem.
>
> Any XP Home system that you want to access thru the network will need the
> Guest
> account activated. Not thru the Control Panel applet either.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/06/file-sharing-under-windows-xp.html#Activate>
Before I set Guest account have question.
When I Run-CMD the screen within CMD reads C:\Documents and Settings\user>
Should I just go ahead and type in;
net user AccountName /active:yes
(Substitute actual account name for "AccountName"), your instructions or
should I change anything/path?
I'm also guessing the account name would be "wabash1"?????
>
>>
>>2.
>>I recheck "File and print sharing MS network" and Browse Master is
>>Disabled
>>on both 98se's.
>>Should I disable BM on my xp? If so, how. As stated before, I can see
>>wabash1 from wabash3, I just can't into it.
>>Just checked my xp, CP, Admin, Services, computer browser and it is set to
>>"AUTOMATIC".
>
> If you have multiple computers, and you want the Network Neighborhood
> display to
> be reliable, you have to tune the browser setup on the LAN. Having too
> many
> browsers will cause problems. Run browstat on Windows XP, and make sure
> you
> don't have a conflict. The Wabash3 to Wabash1 error is symptomatic of
> this
> problem.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html>
>
have d/l browstat.zip to mydocs-downloads folder.
Not real sure what to do next. unzip where?
Also, will running this program have any chance of 'screwing" anything up?
Again, I don't want to do anything remotely possible of messing up the
system.
>>
>>3.
>>I had Norton System Works on the 2 98se but after reading several
>>newgroups
>>I uninstalled, cleaned, etc. and then reloaded JUST NAV 2005 as a stand
>>alone. I also have Zone Alarm on all 3 systems but I'm guessing that's not
>>the problem as I can get into the 98se(wabash3) from the xp system, I can
>>see the xp(wabash1) from wabash3 but can't get into. Wabash2, next
>>situation, can't see anything nor can anything see it.
>
> If you have Norton SystemWorks, or Norton AntiVirus, then you don't have
> an
> overlooked firewall. If you do have Zone Alarm, then you do need to
> choose
> between it and Windows Firewall (do you have SP2?). Please note that un
> installing Zone Alarm isn't as simple as just running the un install
> wizard.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
> <http://www.donhoover.net/uninstall.html>
>
Have ZA running instead of Windows... Not sure how I turned it off. Where to
find firewall wizard?(your instruction on turning off firewall). ""If you're
going to run a third party firewall, you must disable Windows Firewall, but
only from the Windows Firewall wizard - do not make the mistake of stopping
the Windows Firewall service. The Windows Firewall service breaks several
network services, if it is stopped.""
Sp2 = yes.
I want to take a moment and say "THANK YOU" for helping with this problem.
Hopefully we'll get it worked out AND I'm learning as we go. thanks....
.
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