Re: Windows XP Networking Problems - Solution

On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 20:57:43 GMT, Rob <r.woods31_NOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>On 27 May 2005 13:39:03 -0500, Chuck <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 27 May 2005 17:29:15 GMT, Rob <r.woods31_NOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>On 26 May 2005 18:27:02 -0500, Chuck <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 26 May 2005 22:33:31 GMT, Rob <r.woods31_NOSPAM@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:21:50 -0500, "Sidney Walker"
>>>>><sidneywalker@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I am having trouble accessing the Internet from the client computer on my
>>>>>>
>>>>>>home network. The computer (host) that is accessing the internet via a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>dial-up connection is running Windows XP SP2. The client computer is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>running Windows 98 second edition. I am having no problems sharing or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>transferring files from the host to client or client to host.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I have exactly the same problem (tho' with DSL from Verizon), with
>>>>>NETGEAR PA301 with two machines XP-SP2 and one WIN98. The only thing
>>>>>that worked was to revert the host machine to XP-SP1. I hope someone
>>>>>will find a fix for this and/or you have found a solution other than
>>>>>this.
>>>>>
>>>>>Best, Rob
>>>>
>>>>Rob,
>>>>
>>>>I don't see a PA301 on the Netgear website.
>>>>
>>>>What type of trouble are you having accessing the Internet? Are you using ICS
>>>>on the host? Have you asked for help here (I apologise but I don't recognise
>>>>your nym).
>>>
>>>Thanks for asking. Yes, after some two weeks of frustration, I did
>>>ask here. Steve Winograd tried to help, but in the end (after trying
>>>everything suggested that I could find posted and by him), I gave up
>>>and reverted to SP1 -- where it worked again. (here as "SP2 problems
>>>with internet sharing" 5/19-20)
>>>
>>>You have to dig into the Netgear site
>>>(http://kbserver.netgear.com/main.asp) and search for PA301. They
>>>claim it (and its brother PA101) are still supported and their advice
>>>was something I had already tried (static address). The support, I
>>>surmise, has been outsourced to other parts of the world and prompt
>>>replies are hard to come by. Right now I have a query with them to
>>>see if there are more up-to-date drivers than what I have used. But
>>>since it worked under XP-SP1 but not SP2, I think it must have
>>>something to do with SP2.
>>>
>>>If you have any suggestions I haven't tried, I'm more than willing
>>>reinstall SP2 and strive again.
>>>
>>>Thanks for your consideration,
>>>Rob
>>
>>Hi Rob,
>>
>>OK, I remember you now. You changed your nym. I followed that thread, from
>>time to time.
>>
>>My suspicions are that the drivers for the PA301 are not SP2 compatible.
>>
>>I did some reading about the PA301 from your link. I notice:
>>7. Will I need firewall software for the computer that is hosting the Internet
>>connection for the client computer?No, the Internet sharing software that is
>>included with the PA301/101 acts as a software router. Through the use of NAT,
>>the software will act as a secure firewall to protect your computer.
>>
>>I wonder if the software router apparently included with the PA301 is the
>>problem. Obviously, if there's a NAT router in there, running the XP NSW and
>>trying to setup ICS is going to be a losing proposition.
>>
>>I think the ball, right now, is in Netgear's court. They need to at least tell
>>you if they can support the PA301 with SP2. But that's doubtful if you
>>reference question #12.
>>
>>12. What Operating Systems will the PA301/101 work with?The PA301 will work with
>>Windows 95/98. The PA101 will work with Windows 98 only.
>>
>>My suggestion would be, as I repeat over and over, to use an Ethernet
>>infrastructure, and maybe get Ethernet compatible phone line devices. Maybe
>>there's an Ethernet to PA301 bridge? If you use Ethernet, you could get a NAT
>>router, and stop worrying with ICS. You wouldn't have to replace or bridge both
>>PA301's - just the one that connects to the ICS host.
>>
>>Please do let us know how this works out for you.
>
>
>Hi Chuck,
>
>After several weeks of e-mailing back and forth (Netgear support
>walking through all the steps suggested and implemented here), I was
>bumped to level 2 support, which responded with EOL (end of life) and
>the denial of support.
>
>So, because of the physcial surroundings of my home network, I really
>have to go with HPNA (about 450' through several rooms and three
>outside walls). I've checked your website, but am unclear what
>exactly I need to implement your suggestion re: router etc.
>
>Would it be something like this? Dsl modem to Nat router to Ethernet
>NIC to phoneline card to [clients] phoneline card? I already
>appreciate greatly the help all have given, but would be even more
>grateful for a site or push in the right direction.
>
>Again, thanks,
>Rob

Rob,

Glad to help (assuming that I am). Since a router typically outputs Ethernet,
you'll need an Ethernet to HPNA bridge on the router end. On the client end,
you'll just have phone jacks connected to [client] phoneline cards. So
basically, all you need is one Ethernet to HPNA bridge (plus of course a
router).

Unfortunately, I just did a brief web search, and I can't find too much HPNA
equipment at all. It looks like there's new stuff coming out to bridge Ethernet
thru power lines, but HPNA not too much. Linksys only offers a PCI to HPNA
card, and a USB to HPNA adapter. I can't find any Netgear HPNA stuff at all.
So I'm not sure what to say, except you may have to make an HPNA bridge out of
one of your computers after all. :(

Or bite the bullet, move ahead, and start using power line bridges.

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