Re: Problem with XP Pro and Home in same Network
- From: "BillK" <BillK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 16:37:01 -0700
Chuck,
Thank you. I'll investigate.
Bill
"Chuck" wrote:
> On Sat, 28 May 2005 14:37:01 -0700, "BillK" <BillK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> >1) When the laptop is the master browser, do you know for a fact that both
> >desktops recognise that role? Have you run browstat on all 3 computers for
> >both cases (desktop as mb and laptop as mb)? Any observed differences when
> >one or the other desktop is the mb?
> >Answer: I did not run browstat, but when either of the desktops are the mb,
> >the network can be accessed successfully from within My Network Places. When
> >the laptop is the mb, the laptop can access the network from within My
> >Network Places, but the desktops cannot. In this case, I know the laptop is
> >the mb because it was the first computer on the network to be turned on. When
> >I stopped the computer browser service on the laptop, waited a minute, and
> >then restarted the service, it gave the desktops time to elect a new mb. Then
> >they were able to access the network.
> >2) Is the Guest account enabled on the laptop for network access? IE., did
> >you
> >execute "net user guest /active:yes" from the laptop?
> >Answer: The Guest account is enabled on all computers, and Everyone is given
> >full access to the shares.
> >3) Have you set restrictanonymous properly?
> >Answer: Restrictanonymous value is 0 on all 3 computers.
> >4) How about a firewall problem?
> >Answer: There is a hardware firewall in the wired router that connects the
> >computers to the network, and Kerio Personal Firewall running on each
> >computer. Disabling the software firewall makes no difference, so it cannot
> >be that.
> >5) Remembering that you can have a latency period of up to 51 minutes
> >between any actual change to the network, and that change being reflected in
> >Network Neighborhood, do you always wait a sufficient amount of time after
> >making any changes, before making an observation judging the results?
> >Answer: There is no latency on this network. On each computer, the lmhosts
> >file contains the ip addresses and name of each computer with #PRE, so that
> >upon bootup, they are loaded in the netbios name cache. “Enable LMHOSTS
> >lookup” is enabled in each computer.
> >6) When the laptop is the (a?) master browser, what exactly do you mean by
> >"the XP Pro desktops cannot access the network at all through My Network
> >Places"?
> >Answer: The message “MSHOME is not accessible. You may not have permission
> >to … etc., etc., etc.” is displayed.
> >7) Whenever the laptop has both the browser service running, and the registry
> >setting to potentially become the mb set on, do you ever carry it out of
> >range
> >or otherwise let it drop from the network then bring back onto the network
> >without restarting it as you're bringing it back? The laptop electing itself
> >mb, then reattaching to the network while mb, will cause most of these
> >symptoms. Answer: Not sure what you mean by this. But, the router is set to
> >use static DHCP, i.e. DHCP initially set the ip address of each computer, but
> >the router was configured to ensure that the assigned ip addresses are
> >static; they will never change.
> >8) As I conclude in my article about the Windows Browser, it would be better
> >if a
> >wireless computer never be a server, and certainly not a browser. Turning
> >off
> >the browser service, and / or disabling the master browser role in the
> >registry, is not a bad start towards normalising your symptoms, so you can
> >figure out the cause of the other symptoms.
> >Answer: There is no wireless computer on this network. I noticed that
> >turning off the browser service on the laptop prevents it from accessing the
> >LAN, but disabling the master browser roll in the registry has allowed the
> >desktops to always have access to it. However, I cannot get the desktops to
> >see the laptop on the LAN.
>
> Bill,
>
> From your reports, I suspect that you have multiple problems. Please read some
> of the references, they may help your understanding. You're asking for help,
> and I'm trying to give you some clues. Not being in front of your computer, I
> have to rely upon you to make the direct diagnoses.
>
> Please use browstat to diagnose your problem. Don't rely on observation.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/browstat-utility-from-microsoft.html>
>
> Your symptoms are consistent with a browser conflict. “MSHOME is not
> accessible. You may not have permission to … etc., etc., etc.” is a classic
> symptom.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#Browser>
>
> There is latency in the browser system, this has nothing to do with your network
> or the way it's setup. Please read Microsoft's white paper if you don't believe
> me - look for either 48 minutes and 51 minutes.
> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx>
>
> How did you enable the Guest account? The command "net user guest /active:yes"
> is different from using the Control Panel applet.
>
> Some personal firewalls don't react well to being disabled. Please don't assume
> that disabling a firewall will, by itself, remove the firewall as a contributor
> to any problem.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem - it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck sonic net.
>
.
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