Re: Problem with XP Pro and Home in same Network
- From: "BillK" <BillK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 14:37:01 -0700
1) When the laptop is the master browser, do you know for a fact that both
desktops recognise that role? Have you run browstat on all 3 computers for
both cases (desktop as mb and laptop as mb)? Any observed differences when
one or the other desktop is the mb?
Answer: I did not run browstat, but when either of the desktops are the mb,
the network can be accessed successfully from within My Network Places. When
the laptop is the mb, the laptop can access the network from within My
Network Places, but the desktops cannot. In this case, I know the laptop is
the mb because it was the first computer on the network to be turned on. When
I stopped the computer browser service on the laptop, waited a minute, and
then restarted the service, it gave the desktops time to elect a new mb. Then
they were able to access the network.
2) Is the Guest account enabled on the laptop for network access? IE., did
you
execute "net user guest /active:yes" from the laptop?
Answer: The Guest account is enabled on all computers, and Everyone is given
full access to the shares.
3) Have you set restrictanonymous properly?
Answer: Restrictanonymous value is 0 on all 3 computers.
4) How about a firewall problem?
Answer: There is a hardware firewall in the wired router that connects the
computers to the network, and Kerio Personal Firewall running on each
computer. Disabling the software firewall makes no difference, so it cannot
be that.
5) Remembering that you can have a latency period of up to 51 minutes
between any actual change to the network, and that change being reflected in
Network Neighborhood, do you always wait a sufficient amount of time after
making any changes, before making an observation judging the results?
Answer: There is no latency on this network. On each computer, the lmhosts
file contains the ip addresses and name of each computer with #PRE, so that
upon bootup, they are loaded in the netbios name cache. “Enable LMHOSTS
lookup” is enabled in each computer.
6) When the laptop is the (a?) master browser, what exactly do you mean by
"the XP Pro desktops cannot access the network at all through My Network
Places"?
Answer: The message “MSHOME is not accessible. You may not have permission
to … etc., etc., etc.” is displayed.
7) Whenever the laptop has both the browser service running, and the registry
setting to potentially become the mb set on, do you ever carry it out of
range
or otherwise let it drop from the network then bring back onto the network
without restarting it as you're bringing it back? The laptop electing itself
mb, then reattaching to the network while mb, will cause most of these
symptoms. Answer: Not sure what you mean by this. But, the router is set to
use static DHCP, i.e. DHCP initially set the ip address of each computer, but
the router was configured to ensure that the assigned ip addresses are
static; they will never change.
8) As I conclude in my article about the Windows Browser, it would be better
if a
wireless computer never be a server, and certainly not a browser. Turning
off
the browser service, and / or disabling the master browser role in the
registry, is not a bad start towards normalising your symptoms, so you can
figure out the cause of the other symptoms.
Answer: There is no wireless computer on this network. I noticed that
turning off the browser service on the laptop prevents it from accessing the
LAN, but disabling the master browser roll in the registry has allowed the
desktops to always have access to it. However, I cannot get the desktops to
see the laptop on the LAN.
"Chuck" wrote:
> On Sat, 28 May 2005 11:58:02 -0700, "BillK" <BillK@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> >I have 3 computers networked in a home environment in one workgroup. Two
> >desktop computers run XP Pro, SP 2, with classic file sharing. They both log
> >on with the same id and password. Sometimes, a laptop computer running XP
> >Home, SP 2 is also on the network. Logon to the XP Home laptop is with a
> >different id and password. The logon id and password of the XP Pro desktops
> >is defined as an account on the XP Home laptop, and the logon id and password
> >of the XP Home laptop is defined as an account on the XP Pro desktops.
> >
> >When one of the XP Pro desktops is the master browser, the XP Home laptop
> >can see the XP Pro shares, both mapped and through My Network Places, but the
> >XP Pro desktops cannot see the XP Home shares through My Network Places. And,
> >I cannot map the shares of the XP Home laptop from a desktop. The XP Home
> >laptop can also see the XP Pro shares both ways when it is the master
> >browser, but then the XP Pro desktops cannot access the network at all
> >through My Network Places. The network cannot be found in this scenario. Each
> >desktop can access the mapped shares, though, of the other XP Pro desktop,
> >but they can’t map a new share because the network is not accessible.
> >
> >When the XP Pro desktops use simple file sharing, then they can see the XP
> >Home laptop through My Network Places. But using simple file sharing with XP
> >Pro is not an option, since software I use that allows remote access of the
> >other desktop requires classic file sharing with a password.
> >
> >Why can’t the XP Pro computers see the shares of the XP Home one? And, why
> >can’t the XP Pro computers access the network through My Network Places when
> >the XP Home computer is the master browser? I was able to resolve the latter
> >problem by setting a registry entry in the XP Home computer so that it can
> >never be the master browser, but that really shouldn’t be necessary, should
> >it? Does simple file sharing on one network computer require it on all
> >network computers to be able to see all computers through My Network Places?
> >
> >Thanks for any help,
> >Bill
>
> Bill,
>
> You ask a lot of questions in your problem report. And you also leave a few for
> me to ask.
>
> 1) When the laptop is the master browser, do you know for a fact that both
> desktops recognise that role? Have you run browstat on all 3 computers for both
> cases (desktop as mb and laptop as mb)? Any observed differences when one or
> the other desktop is the mb?
>
> 2) Is the Guest account enabled on the laptop for network access? IE., did you
> execute "net user guest /active:yes" from the laptop?
>
> 3) Have you set restrictanonymous properly?
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/restrictanonymous-and-enumeration-of.html>
>
> 4) How about a firewall problem?
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
>
> 5) Remembering that you can have a latency period of up to 51 minutes between
> any actual change to the network, and that change being reflected in Network
> Neighborhood, do you always wait a sufficient amount of time after making any
> changes, before making an observation judging the results?
>
> 6) When the laptop is the (a?) master browser, what exactly do you mean by "the
> XP Pro desktops cannot access the network at all through My Network Places"?
>
> 7) Whenever the laptop has both the browser service running, and the registry
> setting to potentially become the mb set on, do you ever carry it out of range
> or otherwise let it drop from the network then bring back onto the network
> without restarting it as you're bringing it back? The laptop electing itself
> mb, then reattaching to the network while mb, will cause most of these symptoms.
>
> As I conclude in my article about the Windows Browser, it would be better if a
> wireless computer never be a server, and certainly not a browser. Turning off
> the browser service, and / or disabling the master browser role in the registry,
> is not a bad start towards normalising your symptoms, so you can figure out the
> cause of the other symptoms.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/04/nt-browser-or-why-cant-i-always-see.html#Prevent>
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem - it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck sonic net.
>
.
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