Re: Why doesn't windows allow me to disconnect from a network?

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OK, let's see if we can make a dent in this thing. First, although I think
it is unlikely that connecting to your friend's network is the cause of this
problem, we need to eliminate that possibility:

1. When you connect to your friend's network, are you required to

a. Join a domain or otherwise change the way you log onto your XP machine;
and/or

b. Install any software for the purpose of joining the network; and/or

c. Do you map drives to any of your friend's computers - if this is the
case, then eliminating those mapping may solve the problem you are currently
having; and/or

d. Change any settings on your machine - especially on your local area
connection or in Internet Explorer, and/or

e. Do you connect to your friend's network with the same adapter/port that
you use to connect to your DSL modem? If you use a different port/adapter
to connect to your friend's network, we should try disabling that
connection.

2. I suspect that the answers to the above is No, and if this is the case,
it is unlikely that your friend's network is the source of the problem.
Nevertheless, make sure that your machine is free of viruses and spyware.
If a second logon eliminates the delay in your Internet connection, then it
is unlikely that viruses etc. are the cause of your problem, but it is a
possibility and you may have been infected while on your friend's network.

3. Try this:

Click Start/Run gpedit.msc ENTER

Expand Computer Configuration, expand Administrative Templates, expand
System, and click on Logon.

In the right pane, double click on "Always wait for network connections
......... Check the box to enable this policy.

Close down Group Policy and reboot the computer. As a result of enabling
this policy it may take you a little longer to get to your Desktop on
startup, but it shouldn't be anything like 5 minutes.

Please advise. If none of the above helps or is otherwise applicable, we'll
try to determine whether you have a PPPoE connection and change some
settings accordingly.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP

"GSchaller" <GSchaller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:3A7F272E-4110-4C48-BA55-87193F9F2617@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Yes, the delay happens at my home, every time my computer reboots I get
the
> delay. If I manually disconnect and then reconnect there is no delay. But
> when I boot I have to wait several minutes before the system will connect
to
> the net.
>
> Now, when I am at my friend's home there is no delay. However, he is
always
> connected to the net (on a dsl line). when I boot up there there is no
delay,
> I can access the internet right away.
>
> I am sorry for coming across so pissy. I did not know that you were
> misunderstanding my problem and was frustrated. Sorry.
>
> My system is setup to receive the ip from the provider. I do not have a
> specific address assigned. At least I do not think so. I have checked
> properties on the dsl connection and the local area network (which windows
> will not let me disable without killing my dsl connection (why this is so,
> only microsoft knows).
>
> And so you know, the reason I am so harsh on microsoft and networking is
> cause of the .NET crap. Forcing me to install a service to me system that
> then made me log into my own computer which I am the ONLY one who uses
showed
> me that microsoft is obsessed with the misconception that everyone runs a
> home network. Thank god they fixed that, but this problem I am having now
> where there is not simple way to disconnect from a network I am no longer
> hooked up to is bringing the frustration back. Sorry if it spilled onto
you.
>
> And just for clarification, I am an avid gamer. Been so since the days of
> DOS 2.11. I have to frequently reboot so as to have a clean system for
better
> performance. So it is several times a day that I get to encounter this
> problem. Weeeee :)
>
> "Doug Sherman [MVP]" wrote:
>
> > Maybe I'm misunderstanding you - are you saying that it is not just the
> > first time you connect to the Internet after visiting your friend - ie.
> > EVERY time that you connect to the Internet there is a 5 minute delay?
> >
> > If this is the case, then it is highly unlikely that this is the result
of
> > network settings you picked up from your friend's network. There are
> > several possible causes/fixes. Please provide more information.
> >
> > Doug Sherman
> > MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
> >
> > "Doug Sherman [MVP]" <dsherman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:%23ijJnNSRFHA.3288@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Let's start over.
> > >
> > > The Internet uses a protocol called TCP/IP which requires that your
> > computer
> > > have a unique IP address. In your case, this address is assigned by a
> > > service called DHCP which is provided by your ISP. Microsoft did not
> > invent
> > > these protocols or the rules about how they work.
> > >
> > > By default Microsoft uses these same protocols on Windows networks
such as
> > > your friend's; and as a result, you get a new IP address when you
connect
> > to
> > > his network. The same thing would or could happen if you connected
your
> > > machine to a different DSL modem instead of a LAN network. The delay
you
> > > are experiencing is a result of the additional communication required
when
> > a
> > > computer seeks to renew an IP address which is no longer valid.
Microsoft
> > > did not invent this process either.
> > >
> > > One thing you could do to avoid this delay, is configure an
alternative
> > > static IP address compatible with your friend's network. This is easy
to
> > > do. However, you will need to obtain information about your friend's
> > > network addresses, subnet mask, default gateway and DNS server. If
you
> > want
> > > help I would be happy to provide it. Otherwise, a 5 minute delay
twice a
> > > year doesn't exactly sound like a savage indictment - you've already
spent
> > > more time than that complaining about it.
> > >
> > > Doug Sherman
> > > MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
> > >
> > > <GScja>; "er" <GScja;;er@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > news:EC01B980-CD88-41F4-A7B8-99CD8F4FD6B5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > So you are saying that I have to wait till the next time I visit my
> > friend
> > > > before I can fix this problem? That's not practical. He is a 7 hour
> > drive
> > > > from me. I visit maybe twice a year. You are talking about me
waiting 5
> > to
> > > 6
> > > > months to fix this problem. That's just not right.
> > > >
> > > > And the "DSL is a type of network" is not right either. I know DSL
is a
> > > type
> > > > of network. It's just not the type of network I am talking about.
> > > Microsoft
> > > > thinks everyone should be hooked into a home or business network.
They
> > > ignore
> > > > the fact that at least 50% of the people out here are in homes with
only
> > > ONE
> > > > computer. And have no interest in being part of a home or business
> > > network.
> > > > THAT was my point. If your point was pertinant then I would ask then
why
> > > > there is no option to disconnect from a home network like there is
to
> > > > disconnect from DSL....
> > > >
> > > > M problem is that windows is trying to connect me to a non-existant
> > > network.
> > > > How do I stop it from doing that? Without having to wait 6 months to
> > hook
> > > it
> > > > up to the network it is not now connected to.
> > > >
> > > > "Doug Sherman [MVP]" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 1. When you come home from your friend's house and connect to your
DSL
> > > > > modem, you are connecting to a network - it's just a different
one.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. You are correct that the switch over process should not take
this
> > > long.
> > > > > However, delays can result because your computer is trying to
renew an
> > > IP
> > > > > address which did not come from your ISP, and your ISP is trying
to
> > > assign
> > > > > your old IP or some new IP. All of this involves DHCP broadcast
> > > > > communication which is prone to failure resulting in rebroadcasts,
> > > > > collisions, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. Three things you can try to speed up the process:
> > > > >
> > > > > a. Before you disconnect from your friend's network, run this
> > command:
> > > > > ipconfig /release.
> > > > >
> > > > > b. When you come home, disconnect the power source to your DSL
modem,
> > > wait
> > > > > several minutes, then reconnect it.
> > > > >
> > > > > c. When you connect at home, if you don't get Internet
connectivity,
> > > run
> > > > > this command: ipconfig /renew.
> > > > >
> > > > > Doug Sherman
> > > > > MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
> > > > >
> > > > > "GSchaller" <GSchaller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > > > news:3F1B7C03-E54F-4685-B250-64271B9A92DE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Every now and then I make a trip to a friend's house and stay
for a
> > > week
> > > > > or
> > > > > > so. He lives with his brother and daughter, and all three have
> > > computer on
> > > > > a
> > > > > > home network. When I go up there I hook my computer into the
> > network.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However, when I come home I am no longer on a network. Yet when
I
> > > start up
> > > > > > or reboot my computer the system takes 5 or more minutes before
it
> > > logs
> > > > > into
> > > > > > my DSL. And any program that access the web is unusable for that
> > time
> > > > > period.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am assuming that the reason it is taking so long is that my
system
> > > is
> > > > > > attempting to look for my friend's network. Part of the reason I
> > think
> > > > > this
> > > > > > is cause when I reconnect to his network there is no delay at
all.
> > > Only
> > > > > when
> > > > > > I am at home is there any problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have tried all that I can think of to fix this problem, but
> > nothing
> > > has
> > > > > > worked so far. I am getting really frustrated with this. It's
> > typical
> > > > > > Microsoft mentallity that thinks that everyone is connected to a
> > > network
> > > > > at
> > > > > > all times. And that no one would have a reason not to be
connected
> > to
> > > a
> > > > > > network. Thus no reason to have a simple "I am no longer on a
> > network,
> > > > > please
> > > > > > don't look for one" option.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >


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