Re: Why doesn't windows allow me to disconnect from a network?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you - are you saying that it is not just the
first time you connect to the Internet after visiting your friend - ie.
EVERY time that you connect to the Internet there is a 5 minute delay?

If this is the case, then it is highly unlikely that this is the result of
network settings you picked up from your friend's network. There are
several possible causes/fixes. Please provide more information.

Doug Sherman
MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP

"Doug Sherman [MVP]" <dsherman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23ijJnNSRFHA.3288@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Let's start over.
>
> The Internet uses a protocol called TCP/IP which requires that your
computer
> have a unique IP address. In your case, this address is assigned by a
> service called DHCP which is provided by your ISP. Microsoft did not
invent
> these protocols or the rules about how they work.
>
> By default Microsoft uses these same protocols on Windows networks such as
> your friend's; and as a result, you get a new IP address when you connect
to
> his network. The same thing would or could happen if you connected your
> machine to a different DSL modem instead of a LAN network. The delay you
> are experiencing is a result of the additional communication required when
a
> computer seeks to renew an IP address which is no longer valid. Microsoft
> did not invent this process either.
>
> One thing you could do to avoid this delay, is configure an alternative
> static IP address compatible with your friend's network. This is easy to
> do. However, you will need to obtain information about your friend's
> network addresses, subnet mask, default gateway and DNS server. If you
want
> help I would be happy to provide it. Otherwise, a 5 minute delay twice a
> year doesn't exactly sound like a savage indictment - you've already spent
> more time than that complaining about it.
>
> Doug Sherman
> MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
>
> <GScja>; "er" <GScja;;er@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:EC01B980-CD88-41F4-A7B8-99CD8F4FD6B5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > So you are saying that I have to wait till the next time I visit my
friend
> > before I can fix this problem? That's not practical. He is a 7 hour
drive
> > from me. I visit maybe twice a year. You are talking about me waiting 5
to
> 6
> > months to fix this problem. That's just not right.
> >
> > And the "DSL is a type of network" is not right either. I know DSL is a
> type
> > of network. It's just not the type of network I am talking about.
> Microsoft
> > thinks everyone should be hooked into a home or business network. They
> ignore
> > the fact that at least 50% of the people out here are in homes with only
> ONE
> > computer. And have no interest in being part of a home or business
> network.
> > THAT was my point. If your point was pertinant then I would ask then why
> > there is no option to disconnect from a home network like there is to
> > disconnect from DSL....
> >
> > M problem is that windows is trying to connect me to a non-existant
> network.
> > How do I stop it from doing that? Without having to wait 6 months to
hook
> it
> > up to the network it is not now connected to.
> >
> > "Doug Sherman [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> > > 1. When you come home from your friend's house and connect to your DSL
> > > modem, you are connecting to a network - it's just a different one.
> > >
> > > 2. You are correct that the switch over process should not take this
> long.
> > > However, delays can result because your computer is trying to renew an
> IP
> > > address which did not come from your ISP, and your ISP is trying to
> assign
> > > your old IP or some new IP. All of this involves DHCP broadcast
> > > communication which is prone to failure resulting in rebroadcasts,
> > > collisions, etc.
> > >
> > > 3. Three things you can try to speed up the process:
> > >
> > > a. Before you disconnect from your friend's network, run this
command:
> > > ipconfig /release.
> > >
> > > b. When you come home, disconnect the power source to your DSL modem,
> wait
> > > several minutes, then reconnect it.
> > >
> > > c. When you connect at home, if you don't get Internet connectivity,
> run
> > > this command: ipconfig /renew.
> > >
> > > Doug Sherman
> > > MCSE, MCSA, MCP+I, MVP
> > >
> > > "GSchaller" <GSchaller@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > > news:3F1B7C03-E54F-4685-B250-64271B9A92DE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Every now and then I make a trip to a friend's house and stay for a
> week
> > > or
> > > > so. He lives with his brother and daughter, and all three have
> computer on
> > > a
> > > > home network. When I go up there I hook my computer into the
network.
> > > >
> > > > However, when I come home I am no longer on a network. Yet when I
> start up
> > > > or reboot my computer the system takes 5 or more minutes before it
> logs
> > > into
> > > > my DSL. And any program that access the web is unusable for that
time
> > > period.
> > > >
> > > > I am assuming that the reason it is taking so long is that my system
> is
> > > > attempting to look for my friend's network. Part of the reason I
think
> > > this
> > > > is cause when I reconnect to his network there is no delay at all.
> Only
> > > when
> > > > I am at home is there any problem.
> > > >
> > > > I have tried all that I can think of to fix this problem, but
nothing
> has
> > > > worked so far. I am getting really frustrated with this. It's
typical
> > > > Microsoft mentallity that thinks that everyone is connected to a
> network
> > > at
> > > > all times. And that no one would have a reason not to be connected
to
> a
> > > > network. Thus no reason to have a simple "I am no longer on a
network,
> > > please
> > > > don't look for one" option.
> > > >
> > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>


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