Re: Network setup problems

On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 10:19:38 -0400, "MDriggers" <mdriggers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>
>"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:p6sv5156edepf3jog2n5ih3l59de3dfre3@xxxxxxxxxx
>>snip<
>
>> Morris,
>>
>> Firstly, thank you for bottom posting. I was fearing from your second
>> post that
>> you're a top poster, and that frequently interferes with my ability to
>> find, and
>> deal with each, response. ;)
>>
>> Do you have administrative access to the computers (I'm assuming a
>> workgroup
>> here, so you need administrative access to all computers).
>>
>> If this is a workgroup, is each user computer "owned" used by one (or
>> maybe two)
>> individuals, each with a different userid (and non-blank password)? If
>> so, is
>> each userid (and identical password) setup on the server? Or are you guys
>> maybe
>> trying to use a common userid somewhere, to save on administrative
>> complexity?
>>
>> When you get over 5 users, IMHE, you are getting very close to where a
>> domain
>> (unfortunately requiring Server 2003 @ $700 - $900) is justified, in terms
>> of
>> administrative complexity, security, and functionality. With a workgroup,
>> you
>> must have identical userids and passwords setup on both the client
>> (computer
>> owned by individuals) and the server (computer accessed in common by each
>> individual). The ongoing task of synchronising userids and passwords, on
>> all
>> computers, becomes very painful, I know from experience. God forbid that
>> the
>> church treasurer should sometimes sit at the secretary's desk and use that
>> computer too.
>>
>> That being said, let me outline how I would setup one client computer, and
>> the
>> server, as an example, to accommodate one staff member.
>>
>> Both computers run XP Pro, both with Advanced File Sharing (Simple File
>> Sharing
>> disabled), and both under Local Security Policies (Control Panel -
>> Administrative Tools) - Security Options, look at "Network access: Sharing
>> and
>> security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic - local users
>> authenticate as
>> themselves".
>>
>> Computer A (also Windows XP Pro hopefully) would have 2 accounts -
>> Administrator
>> (with administrative functionality), and User1 (with user functionality).
>> Both
>> with non-blank passwords. User1 would use the User1 account, religiously
>> (PI).
>>
>> Server would have 2 accounts - Administrator and User1, both with
>> non-blank
>> passwords identical to those on Computer A. User1 setup as a member of
>> group
>> Users (and implied as a member of Everyone). Shares 1 and 2 permissioned
>> under
>> Sharing to Everyone, and under Security, to Everyone and Users. Share
>> User1
>> permissioned under Sharing to Everyone, and under Security to User1.
>>
>> Is this in precise agreement with your setup, or is there maybe a shortcut
>> that
>> somebody has taken, that might explain your unique circumstances?

>Chuck,
>
>That sounds like it will get us where we need to be. I can't devote any
>time to it until Thursday ... until then we are running the old Linux box as
>well as the new XP box. We'd like to uncrowd the space and recover a port
>on the switch, but we're in no worse shape now than we have been for a month
>or a little more. Your help is much appreciated. Any recommendation on a
>reference book that might help me now and in the future?
>
>Morris

Morris,

Here are a few websites with useful tutorials:
http://www.cablesense.com/
http://www.homenethelp.com/
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/
http://www.wown.com/

Beyond that, most of what I told you above is from experience. Let us know how
it works for you, and we will try to diagnose any further problems.

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.
.

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