Re: Got TCP/IP connection, but no file sharing!?

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Chuck,

This subject has come up a number of times and you have provided these
references before - which I've read through a good deal of them and their
hyper-links. No where can I find that having the Computer Browser Service
enabled on *all* the computers in the network will create a problem - but
let me refine that.

Most of the questions asked here, mine included, have been for small home or
business networks - typically with fewer than 10 systems connected. In one
small network that I help maintain, it is a simple peer-to-peer network, all
running WinXP Home (soon to change to Pro). Each system has the Computer
Browser and TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper running (Started...Auto).

I do a "browstat status" and it finds 8 systems, one identified as the
master and the others as backup. I can browse the network via Explorer and
see all the shares etc. One problem I am having is occasionally, a mapped
drive will have a red X on it. After much research, I find that this is a
known problem in SP-1 and that SP-2 will supposedly fix that. We are
running 3 systems with SP-2, the rest are yet to be upgraded.

So I have been looking for anything in the MS KB that states, all but one
system in a small network should have those services turned off. All I find
is a statement like the following:

"Unless the server is specifically configured to never be a browser, the
Microsoft networking browser service starts automatically when the computer
starts, and the server announces itself on the networking using the special
NetBIOS name <DOMAIN><1e>."

The above is from one of the articles you suggested but it is all about
large networks, with multiple servers etc. I can't find a reference that
states - turn those services off - and I've been looking, so is your advice
based on personal experience that it's best to configure it that way, or did
I miss reading it somewhere along the line?

This may be one of those answers that are not explicitly stated anywhere and
plain old experience or "Try this and see what happens" is the real answer.
Can you shed any more light on this?

Thank you,

Bob S.


"Chuck" <none@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:hovj41t6h21p5ire6f75ieb37057aial6i@xxxxxxxxxx
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 16:01:04 -0800, Toosje
<Toosje@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> >I have two PC's (1 wxp and 1 wxp-pro) connected via ethernetcable. Via
fixed
> >IP-adresses (192.168.0.1 on wxp and 192.168.0.2 on wxp-pro) I can get to
> >Internet and play games on both via TCP/IP - LAN (Pinging to each other
is OK)
> >
> >However I do not succeed to see the other PC on both to share files.
> >
> >
> >Who can help me on this issue?
> >
> >Wotsie
>
> Wotsie,
>
> Does either computer have a personal firewall? Misconfigured firewalls
are a
> common cause for this problem.
>
> If that's not it, check for a browser conflict between the two computers.
I"m
> not talking about Internet Explorer here. The browser is the program that
> allows any computer to see any other computer on the LAN. With a 2
computer
> LAN, you need the browser running on just 1, or conflicts like yours will
> happen.
>
> Make sure the browser service is running on only 1 of the WinXP computers.
> Control Panel - Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer
> Browser, and the TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper, services both show with Status =
> Started. Stop, and Disable the browser on the other computer.
>
> After checking / disabling / enabling as above, power both computers off
to
> reset the browser settings on each. Once both computers have been powered
off,
> power them back on.
>
> The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers (I'm not talking
about
> Internet Explorer here) you have in your domain / workgroup, at any time.
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305
>
> You can download Browstat from either:
> <http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip>
> <http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip>
>
> Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the
downloaded
> file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a
command
> window, by "browstat status". Make sure all computers list the same
master
> browser.
> For more information about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see:
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=231312
>
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbro
wse.mspx>
> <http://www.microsoft.com/technet/archive/win95/w95brows.mspx>
>
> The browser requires anonymous access, so look at registry key
> [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa], value restrictanonymous.
>
<http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/default.asp?url=
/windows2000/techinfo/reskit/en-us/regentry/46688.asp>
> <http://www.jsifaq.com/subf/tip2600/rh2625.htm>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=246261
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=296403
>
> The above articles refer to Windows 2000. Remember WinXP is NT V5.1, and
Win2K
> is NT V5.0.
>
> Have you used the Registry Editor before? If not, it's a scary tool, but
it's
> pretty simple once you get used to it. Here are a couple articles that
might
> help:
>
<http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/productdoc/en/default.asp?url
=/windowsxp/home/using/productdoc/en/tools_regeditors.asp>
> <http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/registry>
>
> Just remember to backup the key (create a registry patch) for
> [HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa] before making any changes, if
> appropriate.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck
> Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck sonic net.


.



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