Re: Setting up VPN to use for RealVNC
From: Sooner Al [MVP] (SoonerAl_at_somewhere.net.invalid)
Date: 03/01/05
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Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 07:57:25 -0600
You can kind of optimize VNC by not rendering the remote PC desktop wallpaper, but in general over a
dial up link it will be a bit slow... What OS does your mother run? If its XP Home then UltraVNC
also has an optimized video driver that helps along with its file transfer functionality. You could
also use the UltraVNC encryption plug-in versus running through a SSH or VPN tunnel.
In any case you either need your Mom to send you her current IP address or use one of the dynamic
naming services like No-IP.com.
If she is running XP Home and your running XP (Pro or Home) another option is Remote Assistance...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/using/helpandsupport/learnmore/remoteassist/intro.mspx
The data is encrypted like Remote Desktop...
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"rogval" <rogval@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:41B15420-228D-49B8-B6A6-8B2126320592@microsoft.com...
>
> That's exactly what I thought ....I just wanted to hear it from an
> experienced individual!! So how is this Ultra VNC going to fare with the
> fact that her dialup is MUCH slower than my DSL? The whole reason I started
> this ordeal, is because when I did this with RealVNC....I would have her
> message me with her current IP address, but when I typed it in and hit ok I
> would get this. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/rogval/vncpic.jpg
>
> Like I said before I had no problem using this between the computers in my
> own home network...behind my router. Then I read something about using Tight
> VNC with dial up connections. Could that be my problem?
>
> Thank You
> Roger
>
>
> "Jack (MVP)" wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> If the other side is using DialUp the IP is dynamic and would be a different
>> one each time she log onto the Internet. It does not matter what you are
>> using for remote control the Dialup IP would change with each login.
>> So she has to start her computer get the IP and email you.
>> Setting VPN, SSH, Encryption, or any other secure connection is not usually
>> a task for a Novice.
>> If you only connect for purpose of helping through a dialup I doubt very
>> much that you need any special security.
>>
>> You might want to start with regular remote connection using Ultr@VNC and
>> take it from there.
>>
>> May be this can Help: http://www.ezlan.net/vnc.html
>>
>> Jack (MVP-Networking).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "rogval" <rogval@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:266D4120-2D62-467B-99A1-73D71B52A5D3@microsoft.com...
>> > I'm still waiting for my mother in law to get home so we can attempt this,
>> > but I want to make sure I got a general understanding of what is going on
>> > before I start giving her instructions.
>> >
>> > If I set this up correctly...it will allow me to connect to her computer
>> > without getting her new ip address everytime she dials up tot he internet?
>> > And I set up the ssh first and that provides me with a secure tunnel
>> through
>> > the internet in order for me to use Ultra VNC to connect to and control
>> her
>> > computer? Is it like Real VNC...the computer that you are connecting to
>> is
>> > the server and the computer you are using to conect to the other is the
>> > viewer?
>> >
>> > Also...I know this might sound totally stupid....but please bear with
>> me...i
>> > just want to make sure we are on the same page. I'm assuming that SSH and
>> > Ultra VNC has to be installed on bothe machines in order to accomplish
>> what
>> > I'm shooting for here? I know I may be wishing for more than what is
>> > possible, but I had to ask.
>> >
>> > Correct me if i'm wrong....but unfortunately I either have to try to walk
>> my
>> > mother-in-law through this on her computer, or physically go there and do
>> it
>> > myself?
>> >
>> > Thank You
>> > Roger
>> >
>> >
>> > "Sooner Al [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thanks...
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>> > >
>> > > Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the mutual
>> benefit of all of us...
>> > > The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>> > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights...
>> > >
>> > > "Jack (MVP)" <Jack(MVP)@discussions.microsoft.com.> wrote in message
>> > > news:uwHtoLdHFHA.1476@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > > > Hi Al.
>> > > > Great page:
>> > > >
>> http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/SSH-RDP-VNC/RemoteDeskto
>> > > > pVNCandSSH.html :D
>> > > > Jack (MVP-Networking).
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
>> > > > news:uJwdZucHFHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > > >> How about using UltraVNC through a SSH tunnel? Its a lot easier to
>> setup
>> > > > and use...IMHO...
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> http://theillustratednetwork.mvps.org/RemoteDesktop/SSH-RDP-VNC/RemoteDeskto
>> > > > pVNCandSSH.html
>> > > >>
>> > > >> --
>> > > >> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
>> mutual
>> > > > benefit of all of us...
>> > > >> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>> > > >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> > > > rights...
>> > > >>
>> > > >> "rogval" <rogval@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > > >> news:97445D28-7DC4-4917-9872-6B14B2E18464@microsoft.com...
>> > > >> > Hello...i'm trying to set up a VPN so that I can put my
>> mother-in-laws
>> > > >> > computer within my home network and that will allow me a secure
>> > > > connection
>> > > >> > over the internet to her computer so I can use realVNC to control
>> her
>> > > >> > computer to diagnose any problems that she calls me at 10:30pm
>> about,
>> > > > instead
>> > > >> > of having to try to understand what she is trying to explain to me
>> over
>> > > > the
>> > > >> > phone. However...being that i'm trying to teach myself as I go...I
>> > > > can't
>> > > >> > seem to find any good detailed instructions on how to do this,
>> including
>> > > > in
>> > > >> > the windows help files (which have never been known to be too
>> > > > extensive!!!!).
>> > > >> > I can use my realVNC great between my computers in my home network
>> but
>> > > > i'm
>> > > >> > having trouble using to connect to a remote place over the
>> internet.
>> > > > Not
>> > > >> > only that...I want a good SECURE connection to my mother-in-laws
>> over
>> > > > the
>> > > >> > internet before I try to VNC, etc. Another problem that I'm facing
>> is
>> > > > the
>> > > >> > fact that she uses dial up and I have dsl...that being the case
>> .....her
>> > > > IP
>> > > >> > address changes everytime she connects. Can I get around this
>> issue
>> > > > also, or
>> > > >> > do I have to have her IPCHICKEN in order for her to tell me her IP
>> > > > address
>> > > >> > evertime I need to connect to her computer?
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > So if anyone would be interested in taking me by the hand here..I
>> would
>> > > >> > certainly appreciate it!!!! Or atleast point me to some good
>> > > > instructions!!
>> > > >> >
>> > > >> > It would be much more simple if Microsoft would come out with a
>> remote
>> > > >> > assistace for preveious versions of windows so it's not restrected
>> to
>> > > > XP. If
>> > > >> > I had XP Proffesional instead of Home edition I would just use the
>> > > > remote
>> > > >> > desktop connection!!
>> > > >>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
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