Re: Networking -I'm going round the bend!

From: Chuck (none_at_example.net)
Date: 02/27/05


Date: 27 Feb 2005 09:52:09 -0600

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:22:53 -0000, "Blair" <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid>
wrote:

>
>"Blair" <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message
>news:eRX1p1MHFHA.2276@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Chuck" <none@example.net> wrote in message
>> news:tk4121pff1tkm6v84e3i6ihn3e7qbh55sp@4ax.com...
>> > On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 09:27:26 -0000, "Blair"
>> <pabm@brachd.fsnet.co.uk.invalid>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >I produced the two files for each PC but when I ran them I got a
>message
>> on
>> > >the XP that "Windows could not find diagnostics" Also each line had
>"not
>> > >recognised as an internal or external command, operable programme or
>> batch
>> > >file
>> > >and on the 98 I got bad command or file name.
>> > >What now?
>> > >regards
>> > >Blair
>> >
>> > Blair,
>> >
>> > IPConfig does yield results manually, so we know that IP is loaded,
>which
>> means
>> > ping should work. If you don't have file sharing, we'll know it easily
>> enough.
>> >
>> > Did CDiag get saved as "c:\cdiag.cmd" (on LAPTOP) and "c:\cdiag.bat" (on
>> > OEMCOMPUTER)?
>> >
>> > Try running CDiag from a command windows:
>> > 1) Start - Run - "cmd", then "c:\cdiag" into the window.
>> > 2) Start - Run - "command", then "c:\cdiag" into the window.
>> >
>> > If that doesn't help see if you can copy and paste the contents of
>> c:\cdiag.cmd
>> > here, and let's see if we can spot where we're going wrong.
>> >
>> > Worst case, you can run ping and net view manually, 8 commands /
>computer
>> > (please don't skip any) (observe ">" vs ">>"!!).
>> > ping LAPTOP >c:\cdiag.txt
>> > ping 192.168.0.1 >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > ping OEMCOMPUTER >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > ping 192.168.0.2 >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > net view LAPTOP >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > net view 192.168.0.1 >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > net view OEMCOMPUTER >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > net view 192.168.0.2 >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> >
>> > CDiag is just a shortcut, makes it easier for you to gather the
>> diagnostics,
>> > makes mistakes less likely, and makes a report easier to read.
>> >
>> > Just do your best.
>> >
>> I can confirm that
>> c:\cdiag.cmd is saved on LAPTOP and c:\cdiag.bat is saved on OEMCOMPUTER
>> Runnng cmd or command a with c-\cdiag produced the same resullts.
>> I then copied c:\cdiag.cmd
>> Here is the copy
>> > @echo off
>> > set FullTarget1=LAPTOP 192.168.0.1
>> > set FullTarget2=OEMCOMPUTER 192.168.0.2
>> > set FullTarget3=
>> > set FullTarget4=
>> > set FullTargets=%FullTarget1% %FullTarget2% %FullTarget3% %FullTarget4%
>> > set PingTargets=127.0.0.1
>> > Set Version=V1.07
>> > @echo CDiagnosis %Version% >c:\cdiag.txt
>> > @echo Start diagnosis for %computername% (Targets %FullTargets%)
>> >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > @echo "ping www.yahoo.com" >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > ping www.yahoo.com >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > @echo "ping 66.94.230.32" >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > ping 66.94.230.32 >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > for %%a in (%FullTargets% %PingTargets%) do (
>> > @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > @echo Target %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > @echo "ping %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > ping %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > @echo "net view %%a" >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > @echo. >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > net view %%a >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > )
>> > @echo End diagnosis for %computername% >>c:\cdiag.txt
>> > notepad c:\cdiag.txt
>> > :EOF
>>
>> I don't undrestand how I ping with the various commands
>> Is this done in a DOS window or what?
>> Trying my best!!
>> Blair
>>
>I decided to run the Network Wizard on both PCs and low and behold I have
>connected again!!
>I can transfer data between the two and can print from both.
>My AVG update started automatically which showed the Desktop was
>communicating with the Internet through the Laptop
>My only problem now is when I open Internet Explorer it will not communicate
>with the Internet which it did previously.
>The strange thing is it did so with the AVG. update!
>The other problem I cannot use Outlook Express which I could not before. I
>have deleted any reference to a logon service and filled in the LAN
>settings.
>I'm not sure if my settings are right. I have www.freeserve.net Port 8080.
>as a proxy server
>Can you help with this problem now?
>Regards
>Blair

Blair,

You run "ipconfig /all" or "net view" from a command window (Start - Run ' "cmd"
or "command").

Why are you using a proxy server? If the proxy server is external to your LAN
("www.freeserve.net"), you have to have internet access to get to it, so you
have no problem with internet access either - just proxy server access.
<http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0%2C%2Csid14_gci212840%2C00.html>

If you're trying to use a proxy server for Outlook Express, that could be your
problem there too - proxy servers are application specific, and a proxy server
for HTTP:80 will not necessarily work for POP:109/110.

So first, remove all proxy references. Configure all applications for direct
internet access, so each computer simply uses its Default Gateway for
everything. Then see what works and doesn't work, and let us know.

-- 
Cheers,
Chuck 
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My        email         is          AT         DOT
   actual       address    pchuck       sonic      net.


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