Re: File and Print Sharing Problem.

Tech-Archive recommends: Repair Windows Errors & Optimize Windows Performance

From: Eric Niewoehner (eric.niewoehner_at_uas.alaska.edu)
Date: 12/29/04


Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 15:32:14 -0900

Been dealing with this problem for several months on-and-off. Culprit?
  Most likely WEP running on the Linksys wireless router. Turned off
WEP and F & P works like a charm. Left this problem with Linksys
support and they have yet to get back with me. My hunch is that their
is a bug in the Linksys algorithm that corrupts ACL verifications. For
that reason, I often received sporadic blockage to the workgroup, even
though I was a member of it. When the workgroup was accessed, was
refused access to network devices even though I held an equivalent
account on those devices.

Once WEP was removed, discovered some issues with authentication levels
to the Windows 2003 server that is on my network. Login failed because
I had set it to NTLMv5 authentication (done through Local Security
Policies). While theoretically this should not have been a problem
because all my workstations are Windows XP, reducing the level back down
to both LM and NTLMv5 negotiated solved the problem. Again, this may be
related to the Linksys router.

One option failed to resolve the WEP problem, an option that has often
solved problems in other networks I have administered. Tried adding a
WINS server to the network. Even that failed. The problem is quite
puzzling. Theoretically, NetBIOS (which is used to match Microsoft
computer names with an IP address) should be embedded in an TCP/IP
packet, which is embedded in the WEP shroud.

Since I scanned several other messages in this newsgroup, it appears the
problem first emerged with SP2. It is possible that SP2 conducts an
integrity assessment of the authentication packets to establish whether
they have been manipulated, and that the WEP manipulation of the Linksys
router apparently triggers a rejection. I leave that to Microsoft to
explain.

slc_repdom wrote:

> Could you post the solution? I am having the same problem with a network I
> am trying to setup.
>
> I have 4 ws that can see all 5 ws and 1 (a) that sees only itself. I get an
> error that I may not have rights to access that computer when trying to
> connect to (a). I can ping every system and I get a response.
>
> - Sam
> "Carey Holzman" wrote:
>
>
>>Send me an email and I'll walk you through it.
>>
>>carey@careyholzman.com
>>
>>"WatchBill" <WatchBill@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>news:EC9637C6-A1BA-4E49-8FA6-6CC171FF8C0C@microsoft.com...
>>
>>>I am having similar problems connecting a new dell running xp home with sp2
>>>on it, connecting to an home xp sp1 version.
>>>
>>>i can see both computers on the small home network from the sp2 system but
>>>only able to access the system itself. I get computer not accessible.
>>>You
>>>might not have permissions. The sp1 computer will only see itself.
>>>
>>>This is so frustrating 95, 98, NT and 2000 were so similar for networking
>>>and sharing i was able to sep up networks in my sleep.
>>>
>>>what the heck do i do????
>>>
>>>losing patience and time............help..
>>>
>>>
>>>"JustMe" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Well, that's the theory anyway and up until I ran into XP Home, I never
>>>>questioned it but I will take you up on your offer. I'll shoot you a post
>>>>shortly.
>>>>
>>>>"Carey Holzman" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
>>>>news:ui1KW4o2EHA.1124@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>>Of course, you really can use just TCP/IP for everything if you want
>>>>>to.
>>>>>Send me an email and I will walk you through the setup one-on-one if
>>>>>you
>>>>>want.
>>>>>
>>>>>Carey@careyholzman.com
>>>>>
>>>>>"JustMe" <JustMe@NoSpam.nyet> wrote in message
>>>>>news:vM-dndao882LAi_cRVn-hA@comcast.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>>That thought crossed my mind. It's the only common transport protocol
>>>>>>other
>>>>>>than IP which isn't working.
>>>>>>Thanx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Carey Holzman" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:%231Jf$so2EHA.1124@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Replace NetBeui with IPX/SPX (included with XP) and see if that
>>>>
>>>>resolves
>>>>
>>>>>>>your issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Carey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"JustMe" <JustMe@NoSpam.nyet> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:T4OdnQyzOIq3Bi_cRVn-uA@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"JustMe" <JustMe@NoSpam.nyet> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:XLidnXO_pJuEySzcRVn-sQ@comcast.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I'm having a small networking problem I was hoping someone could
>>>>
>>>>shed
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>some
>>>>>>>>>light on.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>While attempting to add a network printer to a new PC, I noticed
>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>
>>>>>>wasn't
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>able to browse to it. Investigation reveals I'm not able to see
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>computer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>that has the printer but I can't find any reason for it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Here's the setup:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Have 2 PC's running Win2k Pro sp4 on a small workgroup connected
>>>>>>>>>by
>>>>
>>>>a
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Linksys router. Both of these PC's (A&B) have communicated and
>>>>>>>>>been
>>>>>>
>>>>>>able
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>share resources for the past 6 years without problem. I added a
>>>>>>>>>new
>>>>
>>>>PC
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>(C)
>>>>>>>>>running WinXP Home sp2. The installation went fine till I
>>>>>>>>>attempted
>>>>
>>>>to
>>>>
>>>>>>>>share
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the printer on (A).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>All systems have 3 identical accounts and matching PW's. File and
>>>>>>>>>Print
>>>>>>>>>Sharing is installed and bound on each NIC. System (B) has been
>>>>>>>>>sharing
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>printer attached to (A) for years. All systems can access the
>>>>
>>>>Internet
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>via
>>>>>>>>>the router. When browsing for shares, System (B) can see all
>>>>
>>>>systems,
>>>>
>>>>>>>>System
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>(A) can see (A) & (B) but system (C) sees nothing. It can see the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>network
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>but, not any resources attached. FWIW, NetBEUI is enabled on (A)
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(B)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>not (C). Yeah, I know I don't need it but I set it up that way
>>>>>>>>>years
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ago
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>when all I had was a hub. I wanted to make sure I had a network
>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>@Hole
>>>>>>>>>crapped out and I couldn't find the DHCP server. Windows Firewall
>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>turned
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>off on system (C) and I never installed one on the other systems.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If I log in on system (A) and search for computers using IP, I
>>>>>>>>>can't
>>>>>>
>>>>>>find
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>(B) or (C). If I search for computer name I can find (B) but not
>>>>
>>>>(C).
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If I log in on system (B) and search for computers using IP, I
>>>>>>>>>can't
>>>>>>
>>>>>>find
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>(B) or (C). If I search for computer names I can find both (A)
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>(C).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If I log in on system (C) and search for computers using IP, I
>>>>>>>>>can't
>>>>>>
>>>>>>find
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>(A) or (B). If I search for computer names I can find (B) but not
>>>>
>>>>(A).
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>TIA for any insight into a solution anyone would care to share.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Here's another small piece of the puzzle. Every document I've come
>>>>>>
>>>>>>across
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>indicated NetBEUI isn't necessary. Alright, I removed the
>>>>>>>>checkmark
>>>>>>>>next
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>NetBEUI and restarted my win2k systems. Now I have no network. All
>>>>
>>>>WS's
>>>>
>>>>>>>>can
>>>>>>>>access the web under tcpip but No workstation can see any other.
>>>>>>>>It's
>>>>>>
>>>>>>like
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the workgroup is gone. I put NetBEUI back and I can share filed
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>printers
>>>>>>>>again, at least on the Win3k systems. Since NetBEUI isn't
>>>>>>>>available
>>>>
>>>>on
>>>>
>>>>>>XP
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>guess I know why I can't communicate to the WinXP system.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>What did I miss? Any Idea's?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>



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