Re: Workgroup is not accessible
From: Chuck (none_at_example.net)
Date: 12/21/04
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Date: 20 Dec 2004 18:24:03 -0600
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 20:11:25 GMT, "W. Watson" <wolf_tracks@invalid.inv> wrote:
>I have a similar problem. I'm not sure whether to start a new thread or just a branch
>here. I'll take a branch. I've started several on this topic only to see them fade
>long before any conlusion could be made.
>
>Although very well detailed, I have questions about Chuck's responses. Here goes.
>
>First let me mention the status of my machines. I'm working with XP Pro SP2 on this
>machine and have a W2000 machine networked to it elsewhere. I removed McAfee firewall
>4. Since installing SP2, I've been completely off my local network. Presently, I
>cannot ping this machine. Up until an hour ago, I could not even get any icons for it
>when using Network Places, Computers Near Me. I cannot see a Entire Network icon.
>When I was playing with the SFS advice below something changed. I'm not sure if it
>was because of my fiddling or it just happened earlier and I didn't notice it. I can
>now see my share icons from Computers Near Me. I still cannot ping this computer or
>the other computer on the network. Only the XP machine has a firewall, the one from
>SP2, and it is on. BTW, until the recent improvement on Places Near Me, using it
>would tell me that it could not access my Galaxy workgroup--see sys admin. OK, onward.
>
>I tried the SFS description, and thought I had disabled it when I went to make the
>"Classic" change. After I got back to the SFS check box from changing to "Classic", I
>noticed the box was checked. Maybe setting Classic did it. Anyway I left it enabled.
>When I checked Places near me, I found the icons that had been missing for days now.
>Happenstance? I dunno. However, is SFS supposed to be enabled? I see it is
>recommended. It was not set on before I started the SFS trail.
>
>When you talk about having identical user accounts on both machines, does that apply
>to the Admin accounts? I only have Admin accounts on both machines, and they have
>identical passwords. BTW, as far as I know, I have no Guest accounts on either machine.
>
>Finally, what is a computer browser? I suspect not my Mozilla browser.
W,
Having been reading your posts for some time, I am never sure where you're
soliciting advice, or giving up in despair.
I'll answer your queries here, but if you are still seeking advice, would you
PLEASE once more start a clean thread summarising your current status, including
your current observed problems, and what you have done to date to solve your
problems. Your tendency to post questions, and updates to your status, at the
end of existing threads, helps neither your cause, nor the cause of the OP in
each thread.
And, having done so, please refrain from making additional changes, as every
time I get ready to contribute suggestions, I note that you're posting with
additional observations or questions, and have apparently made additional
changes just prior to your latest post.
When I mention identical accounts, I mean that you need an account identical to
any that you login with at any time, when you wish to access a server (a server
is any computer providing shared resources of any nature). If you're using
Advanced File Sharing, with non-Guest access, and you're logged in as, for
example, "wwatson" on your Win2K computer, you need an identical account
"wwatson" on the WinXP computer.
More about file sharing, between all different versions of Windows:
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=87c0a6db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en>
The browser is the subsystem in a Windows computer that tracks what servers
exist on a LAN. The browser process / service runs on every Windows operating
system, from Windows 9x/ME to Windows NT/2K/XP. The browser is a peer-peer
process, that is, there is no single authority deciding which computer on a LAN
will provide the definitive browser.
One of the easiest ways to screw up your ability to "see" other computers on the
LAN is to have non-functional (no active), or conflicting (too many active),
browsers running on the LAN. Whenever you make a change to your LAN, which
affects the browser setup, you really need to power all computers off to reset
the browser setup on all computers simultaneously, at least until things are
working to your satisfaction.
With a two computer LAN, having the browser running on just ONE computer is
sufficient. With three computers, having the browser running on two of the
three is sufficient (one becomes the master browser, and the second becomes the
backup).
The Microsoft Browstat program will show us what browsers you have in your
domain / workgroup, at any time.
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305
You can download Browstat from either:
<http://www.dynawell.com/reskit/microsoft/win2000/browstat.zip>
<http://rescomp.stanford.edu/staff/manual/rcc/tools/browstat.zip>
Browstat is very small (40K), and needs no install. Just unzip the downloaded
file, copy browstat.exe to any folder in the Path, and run it from a command
window, by "browstat status". Make sure all computers give the same result.
For more information about the browser subsystem (very intricate), see:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188001
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=188305
<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winntas/deploy/prodspecs/ntbrowse.mspx>
Any more questions? Please start a new thread, so everybody can find, and
contribute to, your problem resolution.
-- Cheers, Chuck Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
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