Re: Network Address?

From: Lee (anon_at_anon.com)
Date: 12/11/04 

Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:45:10 GMT

"Lee" <anon@anon.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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>
> "Malke" <malke@nospoonnotreally.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
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>> divakartandon wrote:
>>
>>> install netbui.
>>>
>>
>> Netbeui is absolutely unnecessary.
>>
>>> "Lee" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have (or would like to have) a simple dirct 2 computer ethernet
>>>> cable Lan using
>>>> TCP\IP with addresses 192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2 between a desktop
>>>> STUDY with OS Wxp SP2 and a laptop using OS W98 but I can't get the
>>>> two of them to see
>>>> each other. The the IP conection works fine with apps like Fastlynx
>>>> and
>>>> Maxivista. I have read and and attempted many of the remedies I've
>>>> seen
>>>> offered to others here and elsewhere without success. I did get them
>>>> going briefly but changed something and now they are blind to each
>>>> other although previously I was able share resources.
>>
>> Lee, from the above it looks like you are trying to make a peer-to-peer
>> connection using Windows Internet Connection Sharing (ICS). I'm not
>> sure what you mean by "works fine with appls like Fastlynx and
>> Maxivista" however. If you are using ICS, the gateway computer needs to
>> be assigned 192.168.0.1 and the other computer 192.168.0.xx (your
>> choice). You need two network adapters in the gateway computer, one
>> going to the Internet and one going to the client computer. The
>> gateway-client connection must be done with a crossover cable.
>>
>> An alternative to ICS is a simple router, which would then be connected
>> to the cable/dsl modem. In that case, only one nic in a machine is
>> necessary and you would set the computers to get their IP addresses
>> automatically from the router.
>>
>> Since you haven't told us exactly what you are doing, how you connect to
>> the Internet, or what you've tried, it's hard to be more specific.
>>
>>>>
>>>> A few questions I can't seem to find answers for anywhere:
>>>> 1 In the Properties\Advanced tab of the Realtek PCMCIA a number
>>>> of options are available:
>>>> APM Wake up
>>>> Early Tx Threshold
>>>> Link down Power saving
>>>> Link speed/Duplex Mode
>>>> Network Address
>>>> WakeUp Frame
>>>>
>>>> What should I put in these, in particular the Network Address which
>>>> has a value of twelve zeros at the moment.
>>
>> Frankly, in all the networking I've done, I've never had to change
>> anything in those properties. Neither should you if the network is set
>> up correctly.
>>>>
>>>> 2 In XP Admin\Services I tried to activate the TCP\IP NetBios
>>>> Helper but
>>>> get the error: 1068 Startup Unsuccseful (my sysytem is in Italian) .
>>>> Should I have this running? How do I get it to run?
>>>>
>>>> 4 On the Laptop (W98) the Enable NetBios over TCP\IP is greyed out
>>>> although it does have a tick in it. Is that OK?
>>>>
>>>> 5 I have no gateway (it is a direct connection) is that right or
>>>> should I put something in there?
>>
>> So here you're saying you are not using a router, but are using ICS? In
>> that case, you've got the IP addresses set wrong. I don't believe ICS
>> will work with anything but the 192.168.0.xx range.
>>
>> Here are some links to help you. MVP Steve Winograd's site (bcmaven)
>> covers ICS very well:
>>
>> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/faq.htm
>> http://www.michna.com/kb/wxnet.htm - Small Network Troubleshooter by
>> Hans-Georg Michna
>>
>> http://www.practicallynetworked.com/howto/
>>
>> Malke
>> --
>> MS MVP - Windows Shell/User
>> Elephant Boy Computers
>> www.elephantboycomputers.com
>> "Don't Panic!"
>
> Thanks for the response. I am sorry I was not clear. I am trying simply
> to
> connect a laptop directly (no router) to a desktop by cable using TPC/IP
> as
> the only protocol. The desktop is has a DSL connection to internet
> through
> its own adaptor but being a newbie to networking I was not attempting at
> this stage to connect the laptop to the internet through the destop but
> merely to share resources. However, if I can use ICS for that, it would
> be
> a bonus.
>
> By mentioning Fastlynx and Maxivista I meant that the IP connection
> between
> the computers works with these third party applications, I asume this
> confirms
> that the setup was in part at least correct.
>
> I mention the gateway and the other options becuase I am unsure why the
> two
> cannot see each other and am grasping at straws. In the tutorials I have
> read it seems straight-forward and at this point the two should
> communicate.
> But they don't and as you see I don't have a clue why not.
>
> The laptop (W98) shows itself in Network Neigbourhood by the Desktop (XP)
> does not even list itself in MSHOME. Although it has done so earlier. I
> have altered the IPs to 192.168.0.1
> and 192.168.0.2 but without success.
>
> Here are the IPcongif files:
>
> The LAPTOP
>
> Windows 98 IP Configuration
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . : LAPTOP
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . :
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast
> NetBIOS Scope ID. . . . . . :
> IP Routing Enabled. . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . : No
> NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS : No
>
>
> 0 Ethernet adapter :
> Description . . . . . . . . : PPP Adapter.
> Physical Address. . . . . . : 44-45-53-54-00-00
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 0.0.0.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . :
> DHCP Server . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
>
>
>
> 1 Ethernet adapter :
> Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek 8139-series PCI NIC
> Physical Address. . . . . . : 00-50-FC-D7-88-2F
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . :
> Primary WINS Server . . . . :
> Secondary WINS Server . . . :
> Lease Obtained. . . . . . . :
> Lease Expires . . . . . . . :
>
>
> And the DESKTOP
>
> Configurazione IP di Windows
>
> Nome host . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : STUDY
> Primary DNS suffix . . . . . . . :
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> Routing IP enabled. . . . . . . . . : No
> Proxy WINS enabled . . . . . . . . : No
>
>
> Adapter Ethernet LAN:
> Suffix DNS specifico per connessione:
> Descrizione . . . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce MCP
> Networking Controller
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-87-91-EF-33
> DHCP enabled. . . . . . . . . . . . : No
> Address IP. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.100.1
> Subnet mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
> NetBIOS over TCPIP. . . . . . : Disabled
>
>
>
> Adapter PPP Alice ADSL:
> Suffix DNS specifico per connessione:
> Descrizione . . . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface
> Physical Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00
> DHCP enabled. . . . . . . . . . . . : No
> IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . . : 80.181.112.15
> Subnet mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 80.181.112.15
> Server DNS . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 81.74.229.227
> 151.99.125.1
>
> NetBIOS over TCPIP. . . . . . : Disabled
>
> Hope this can shed some light.
>
> Lee
>
>

I see these readouts have differing Ip addresses, that is just a momentary
oversight. They communicate okay through IP as I said (when I put the right
IPs in) but still will not "see" each other.

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