Re: Home Network Probs

From: Chuck (none_at_example.net)
Date: 12/10/04


Date: 10 Dec 2004 09:21:06 -0600

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 21:48:10 +1100, "Martin"
<invalid.vk2umj@invalid.yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>"Chuck" <none@example.net> wrote in message
>news:abtgr0t81iaotuij2sjn0ign33nqj2rn6h@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 19:37:38 +1100, "Martin"
>> <invalid.vk2umj@invalid.yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>[SNIP]
>
>OK - I've partly managed to get things working. By powering up 98SE first
>or resetting XP machine after 98SE machine boots I can now see the 98SE
>machine from the My Network Places on XP machine.. All seems fine there..
>
>HOWEVER - the 98SE machine still doing the same - it see's the XP machine in
>Network Neighbourhood, yet when you click on the XP machine it tells you its
>not accessible.....
>
>Here's your last questions answered:
>
>> Martin,
>>
>> As Steven suggested, if there is a firewall interfering, it either has to
>> be
>> properly configured or un installed. Many personal firewalls (other than
>> XP SP2
>> Windows Firewall) may cause problems, even when disabled. Do you have any
>> security products, like Norton Internet Security or McAfee Internet
>> SecuritySuite? A bundled firewall frequently turns out to be the problem
>> in
>> some cases.
>>
>
>Only firewall running on all machines is ZoneAlarm Pro, and I have disabled
>that on both without any change whatsoever. No other security software
>running during trials. ZA Pro has been setup to allow network comms from
>the 3 PC's..
>
>> Did you power both computers off after disabling / enabling the browser?
>>
>
>Yes...
>
>> Please provide browstat information for each computer? Let's see what the
>> browser situation is.
>> Start - Run - "cmd". Type "browstat status >c:\browstat.txt" into the
>> command
>> window - Open c:\browstat.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word
>> Wrap is
>> NOT checked!, copy and paste into your next post.
>
>Hmm - browstat doesn't want to run on the 98SE machine - keeps giving me an
>error message (missing file?), so I'll look at that tomorrow and try to
>figure it out (daughter kicked me out of her room tonight!!!) I know this
>is probably the info you need given the above problems, so I wont expect any
>more suggestions until I can get these results from this PC..
>
>>From the XP computer the browstat result is:
>
>
>Status for domain MSHOME on transport
>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{335BC845-7894-4B2F-8A11-4025EAE5C203}
> Browsing is active on domain.
> Master browser name is: JESS
>Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
>of browser master: 53
> \\\\JESS . Version:04.00 Flags: 452003 WFW POTENTIAL MASTER
> 1 backup servers retrieved from master JESS
> \\JESS
> There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{335BC845-7894-4B2F-8A11-4025EAE5C203}
> There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
>\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{335BC845-7894-4B2F-8A11-4025EAE5C203}
>
>
>>
>> Is the third computer powered off as you work on the first two?
>
>Yep, totally powered off..

Which computer has Zone Alarm? Did you un install it using:
<http://nh2.nohold.net/noHoldCust25/Prod_1/Articles55646/CompleteUninstallNonNT.html

Now read more about file sharing, between all different versions of Windows:
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=87c0a6db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en>

On Family, check to see if Simple File Sharing (Control Panel - Folder Options -
View - Advanced settings) is enabled or disabled. With XP Pro, you need to have
SFS properly set on Family.

Do you trust Jess completely, or do you intend to have some files on Family that
she should not be able to access from her computer? If you wish to protect some
files on Family, you will want to use authenticated access, and disable Simple
File Sharing. I don't know your needs, so read this carefully.

On XP Pro with SFS disabled, check the Local Security Policies (Control Panel -
Administrative Tools). Under Local Policies - Security Options, look at
"Network access: Sharing and security model", and ensure it's set to "Classic -
local users authenticate as themselves".

On XP Pro with SFS disabled, if you set the above Local Security Policy to
"Guest only", enable the Guest account, using Start - Run - "cmd" - type "net
user guest /active:yes" in the command window. If "Classic", setup and use a
common non-Guest account on all computers. Whichever account is used, give it
an identical, non-blank password on all computers.

Also, if you're going to use authenticated access from Jess, make sure to sign
in completely. Don't hit Esc when asked for a username and password.

On XP Home, and on XP Pro with Simple File Sharing enabled, make sure that the
Guest account is enabled, on each computer. Enable Guest with Start - Run -
"cmd", then type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command window.

On XP Pro, if you're going to use Guest authentication, check your Local
Security Policy (Control Panel - Administrative Tools) - User Rights Assignment,
on the XP Pro computer, and look at "Deny access to this computer from the
network". Make sure Guest is not in the list.

-- 
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.


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