Re: Home Network Probs

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From: Chuck (none_at_example.net)
Date: 12/09/04


Date: 9 Dec 2004 10:06:09 -0600

On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 19:37:38 +1100, "Martin"
<invalid.vk2umj@invalid.yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>"Chuck" <none@example.net> wrote in message
>news:m1sar0phbfqsq5f0bbsbub2csag9v4f44t@4ax.com...
>[SNIP]
>
>OK, here we go.. I'll work on just 2 of the computers first as they are
>both inside the house and the 3rd is down in the shed, and is usually turned
>off anyway...
>
>> Martin,
>>
>> If you're having a problem "seeing" various computers from each other
>> (listed in
>> Network Neighborhood), the problem most likely involves the browser (no I
>> am not
>> talking about Internet Explorer). The browsers for Win9x/ME, and for
>> WinNT/2K/XP, do not work well together on a LAN.
>>
>> Make sure all 3 computers are in the same workgroup first.
>
>All computers are in the workgroup "MSHome"
>
>>
>> Make sure the browser service is stopped on the WinXP computer. Control
>> Panel -
>> Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser shows
>> with
>> Status = Stopped and Disabled. Start the browser on both Win98 computers.
>> Power all 3 computers off. Power the 2 Win98 computers on, then power the
>> WinXP
>> computer on.
>> <http://cms.simons-rock.edu/faq_by_subtopic/node138.html>
>
>OK, so I have disabled the XP (PC name "Family") browser and started it on
>the 98SE machine (PC name "Jess"). From the 98SE machine in Network
>Neighbourhood I can see both computers on the network, HOWEVER! When I
>double-click on the XP machine ("Family") I get the error message "
>\\Family is not accessible. The computer or sharename could not be found. "
>
>On the XP machine, in My Computer I can map the shared directories on the
>98SE machine without any problem, HOWEVER when I go to My Network Places
>and click on View Workgroup Computers I get the error message "Mshome is not
>accessible. You might not have permission to use this network resource."
>Yes, I am the Administrator on the XP machine....
>
>> If that's not it, provide ipconfig information for each computer, and
>> we'll
>> diagnose the problem.
>> Start - Run - "cmd". Type "ipconfig /all >c:\ipconfig.txt" into the
>> command
>> window - Open c:\ipconfig.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word
>> Wrap is
>> NOT checked!, copy and paste entire contents into your next post.
>> Identify
>> operating system (by name, version, and SP level) with each ipconfig
>> listing.
>>
>
>OK - XP Machine ("Family"). XP Pro, version 2002, Service Pack 2.
>IP Config:
>
>Windows IP Configeration:
>
> Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : FAMILY
> Primary DNS Suffix . . . . . :
> Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
> IP Routing Enabled . . . . . . : No
> WINS Proxy Enabled . . . . : No
>
>Ethernet adapter MSHome Network:
>
> Connection-specific DNS suffix . :
> Description . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet
>Adapter
> Physical Address . . . . . . . . . . . : 00-0D-87-15-7F-5D
> DHCP Enabled . . . . . . . . . . . . : No
> IP Address . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.13
> Subney Mask . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>
>
>98SE Machine ("Jess").
>
>1. Ethernet adapter
>
> Description . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8029(AS) Ethernet Adapter
> Physical Address. . . . : 00-40-05-57-1F-19
> DHCP Enabled. . . . . : Yes
> IP Address. . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.5
> Subnet Mask . . . . . . : 255.0.0.0
> Default Gateway. . . . : 192.168.1.1
> Primary WINS Server:
> Secondary WINS Server:
> Lease obtained . . . . . : 12 09 04 3:53:25 PM
> Lease expires . . . . . . :
>
>
>Also, as per Stevens suggestions, the XP firewall is disabled (always has
>been) and the relevant local subnet is in the trusted zone on each ZA Pro.
>The "nbtstat" command revealed the results indicated as needed...
>
>So, what next? What confuses me is that on the 98SE the 2 computers are
>visible in NN, yet the XP can't be accessed, and on the XP machine the
>shared directories on the 98SE machine can be mapped, written to and read
>from, yet the machine can't be seen as part of the workgroup...... Is this
>strange?????????

Martin,

As Steven suggested, if there is a firewall interfering, it either has to be
properly configured or un installed. Many personal firewalls (other than XP SP2
Windows Firewall) may cause problems, even when disabled. Do you have any
security products, like Norton Internet Security or McAfee Internet
SecuritySuite? A bundled firewall frequently turns out to be the problem in
some cases.

Did you power both computers off after disabling / enabling the browser?

Please provide browstat information for each computer? Let's see what the
browser situation is.
Start - Run - "cmd". Type "browstat status >c:\browstat.txt" into the command
window - Open c:\browstat.txt in Notepad, make sure that Format - Word Wrap is
NOT checked!, copy and paste into your next post.

Is the third computer powered off as you work on the first two?

-- 
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.


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