Re: Crossover cable problem

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From: Andrei Ungureanu (andreix.nospam_at_msn.com)
Date: 12/05/04


Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 00:05:45 +0200

do you have Windows Firewall activated?

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"Alan" <Alan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
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>
> thanks for the suggestions.
>
> I read thru the info on www.careyholzman.com, could not find anything that
> would fix the problem.
>
> I found the 10 vs 100 mbps comment during a google search.  My older pc
> default value was 100 mbps, the newer pc was 10 mbps.  The older pc has a
> config option to set the speed to 10 mbps so I changed it.  I did not see 
> a
> speed option on the newer pc.  If I can get this connection to work, I'd 
> like
> to bump it to 100 mbps in the future.  My cable is new.
>
> I tried the "\\computer" command.  The results were:
>
> - PC1 and PC2 both work with their own name and ip address.
>
> - PC1 fails with the PC2 name and ip address.
>
> - PC2 fails with the PC1 name and works with the PC1 ip address.
>
> I checked the Computer Browser, both are running.
>
> I checked the NetBIOS over TCP/IP option, both are set.
>
> Additional suggestions?  thanks in advance.
>
> ==================
>
> "Steve Winograd [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> In article <36DEFC36-CB2B-4982-A063-0860EDF71999@microsoft.com>,
>> "Alan" <Alan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >I'm trying to share disk drives and printers between two pc's with a
>> >crossover cable and workgroup.  I cannot see/access the shared items. 
>> >I've
>> >been able to clear up some issues using earlier posts, but it still does 
>> >not
>> >work.
>> >
>> >I have the following setup:
>> >- 2 pcs with XP Pro, recent ASUS mobo and onboard LAN
>> >- I have a single ISP dial up account.  Each pc has a separate phone 
>> >line
>> >and internal modem.
>> >- I've run the network setup wizard numerous times.  The most useful 
>> >setup
>> >I've found for my config is to specify a workgroup with no ISP 
>> >connection.
>> >- I'm using a kvm switch to share dual monitors/keyboard/mouse/speakers
>> >between the pcs.
>> >- PC1 169.254.xxx.yyy
>> >- PC2 169.254.mmm.nnn
>> >- PC1 and PC2 have a firewall for their ISP connection, none for the 
>> >LAN.
>> >
>> >I've done the following so far:
>> >- read somewhere a crossover cable supports 10 mbps, not 100 mbps.  I 
>> >reset
>> >PC1 from 100 to 10 mbps.
>> >- selected NetBIOS over TCP/IP
>> >- ipconfig /all shows "unknown" which i believe is correct
>> >- set the "share" setting on the desired disks, setting is confirmed in
>> >Windows Explorer icon
>> >- ping PC1 <-> PC2 works in both directions
>> >
>> >When I try to access the shared items on PC1 I can see/access PC1 items, 
>> >I
>> >see the PC2 entry but when I try to expand it I receive error:
>> >
>> >"PC2 is not accessible.  You might not have permission to use this 
>> >network
>> >resource.  contact the administrator of this server to find out if you 
>> >have
>> >access permissions.    The network path was not found."
>> >
>> >When I try to access the shared items on PC2 I cannot see the PC2 or PC1
>> >shared items, when I try to expand the workgroup I receive error:
>> >
>> >"Workgroup is not accessible.  You might not have permission to use this
>> >network resource.  contact the administrator of this server to find out 
>> >if
>> >you have access permissions.    The list of servers for this workgroup 
>> >is not
>> >currently available."
>> >
>> >Please provide any suggestions.
>> >
>> >thanks.
>>
>> A properly wired crossover cable supports 100 mbps.  Where did you see
>> that it doesn't? I address that issue on this web page:
>>
>> Steve Winograd's Networking Myths
>> http://www.bcmaven.com/networking/myths.htm
>>
>> A node type of "unknown" is fine.
>>
>> On each computer, try accessing  the other computer by typing the
>> other computer's name in the Start | Run box in this format:
>>
>>    \\computer            (for example, \\desktop)
>>
>> If that doesn't work, try typing the other computer's IP address in
>> the Start | Run box in this format:
>>
>>    \\ip-address          (for example, \\169.253.123.234)
>>
>> If both types of access work, the problem is probably that network
>> browsing isn't working.  In that case, make sure that the Computer
>> Browser service is running on each computer:
>>
>> 1. Right click My Computer, and click Manage.
>> 2. Double click Services and Applications.
>> 3. Double click Services.
>> 4. Double click Computer Browser.  If the Service status is Stopped,
>> click Start.
>> 5. Set the Startup type to Automatic.
>>
>> If Access by IP address works but access by computer name doesn't
>> work, the problem is probably that NetBIOS over TCP/IP isn't enabled.
>> -- 
>> Best Wishes,
>> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>>
>> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
>> for everyone to see.  I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
>> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>>
>> Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>> 


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