Re: No Wireless Connectivity after SP2, Hardwire OK

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From: Trent© (trentsauder_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 10/13/04 

Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:18:00 -0400

On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:26:27 +0200, Hans-Georg Michna
<hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:14:06 -0400, Trent©
><trentsauder@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I don't see how we can blame this on anybody but MSFT.
>>
>>Computer works...with sp1.
>>
>>Computer doesn't work...with sp2.
>>
>>I think its pretty obvious.
>
>Trent,
>
>not quite. SP2 closes a number of holes and tightens security.
>If you need one of those holes open, you have to reopen it by
>hand.

Is it sp2 in general?...or is it the firewall? I don't run the
firewall. So I don't think its a security issue. I just think its an
incompatibility problem.

>Let me give you an example. SP2 uses some processor features
>fully that hadn't been used before, such as DEP (Data Execution
>Prevention). If your hardware is flakey, it may have run without
>SP2, but with SP2 it will fall on its nose.

Yeah...another really dumb idea. Not as dumb as stop errors, though!
lol

>Some motherboard manufacturers neglected to include the matching
>microcode for certain processors like the Intel Prescott in
>their BIOS. (Yes, the BIOS is used to patch microcode defects.)
>Consequently, those microprocessors ran with buggy microcode and
>some of their commands didn't work properly. Windows XP before
>SP2 didn't use these commands, but SP2 exercizes them.
>Consequently the computers fail after SP2 installation. Whose
>fault is this?

Are you trying to tell me that msft didn't anticipate the fallout from
this incompatibility?

>>I have problems with sp2, also...as do many others.
>
>Some others. Most people have no problem with SP2.

Yer probably correct. So far, only people on the problem-programs
list should have problems. I wonder how many million that is?

And then there's guys like me...who use programs like LanTalk that
aren't all that popular.

>>I use a program
>>called LanTalk. With sp2, I can't see any other computers on the LAN.
>>With sp1...no problem.
>
>Ask the manufacturer for an upgrade. Most manufacturers, whose
>software was incompatible, provide SP2 compatible upgrades.

I wonder how many residential, ordinary folk know how to diagnose and
install these kinds of updates. On my bench computer alone, there's a
dozen or so that I would need to upgrade.

My choise...upgrade dozens...or not install one.

>>Stay tuned for sp3! lol
>
>If and when there will be an SP3, it will not change these
>things. You'd better solve the problems right now and run SP2.
>It's not really difficult. Just read
>http://www.michna.com/kb/WxWP2.htm and most likely solve your
>problems with the information given on that page.
>
>Hans-Georg

I want to compliment you on your page, Hans. You really put a lot of
work into it...and did a good job.

But YER a perfect example of what's goin' on. Even YOU don't know how
to answer and SOLVE most of the queries posted here. So for most of
your posts, you simply suggest folks go to your home page...and solve
the problem THEMSELVES.

Even YER overwhelmed, I think. lol

I think Zone Alarm has the right idea. At the beginning of the
install, disable all the sp2 stuff that you can!

Have a nice one...

Trent

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