Re: administrating workgroup from domain

From: Mtek (jimlily2001_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 10/03/04


Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 14:27:02 -0700

thanks! I head back in on Tues. will give it a shot after I put out the fires
that have started burning while I was gone. I will let you know how I do.

"Richard G. Harper" wrote:

> I think you've got it. Let's pick on poor Bob as an example.
>
> You have a domain account named "Bob". Bob is a normal domain user and has
> no domain administrator rights. If you go to the Workgroup computer he
> wants to connect to over the network and use the Local User Manager
> (lusrmgr.msc) to add Bob's name and password to the Administrator group on
> the local machine, he will be able to connect to it remotely and have
> Administrator rights on the Workgroup PC, but still will have no Domain
> rights other than Domain User.
>
> --
> Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] rgharper@email.com
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>
>
> "Mtek" <jimlily2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1CEE3F1D-A332-47F5-92DA-B625390960AC@microsoft.com...
> > Hmm. I may be dense, if I understand what you are saying.
> >
> > I could create an local account on my domain machine with no additional
> > rights buy regular users.
> >
> > Then create an local account on the workgroup machine with admin rights
> > with
> > the same local logon name as the domain machine.
> >
> > I could then log in locally on the domain machine connect to the workgroup
> > machine and have local administrative rights on the workgroup machine but
> > not
> > any domain rights.
> >
> > Or otherwords the workgroup machine cannot access any domain assets. Which
> > is what I want anyway.
> >
> > I do not have to change any local security settings to get complete local
> > access, and the workgroup is still isolated from the domain.
> > ?
> >
> >
> > "Richard G. Harper" wrote:
> >
> >> It doesn't work that way. You can connect to a workgroup PC with an
> >> account
> >> that is an administrator on that computer and get administrator access,
> >> but
> >> just because both accounts are administrators in their separate security
> >> spaces doesn't mean that rights transfer from one to the other.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] rgharper@email.com
> >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> >> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
> >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
> >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >>
> >>
> >> "Mtek" <jimlily2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:9C008DEA-A321-437A-92E8-DAEB29F75E66@microsoft.com...
> >> >I am not work this work this week so I can't try this. But seeing as I
> >> >have
> >> > an local admin account on the workgroup machine and a local admin
> >> > account
> >> > on
> >> > the domain machine, shouldn't I be able to log in locallally on the
> >> > domain
> >> > machine then administrer the workgroup machine?
> >> >
> >> > "Richard G. Harper" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> An administrator on a remote PC may not be an administrator on the
> >> >> local
> >> >> PC.
> >> >> The account names, passwords and rights must match between all clients
> >> >> for
> >> >> the same rights to be granted on the client computer.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] rgharper@email.com
> >> >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> >> >> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
> >> >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
> >> >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Mtek" <jimlily2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:E599F916-48DC-4DF7-AA11-5DBDE429D975@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Shouldn't there be some way of validating an administrator on the
> >> >> > remote
> >> >> > machine locally?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Richard G. Harper" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> You can't. The reason you can administer a domain is because the
> >> >> >> security
> >> >> >> settings are centrally held. On a workgroup each workstation keeps
> >> >> >> its
> >> >> >> own
> >> >> >> security settings.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Richard G. Harper [MVP Win9x] rgharper@email.com
> >> >> >> * PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
> >> >> >> * for the benefit of all. Private mail is usually not replied to.
> >> >> >> * My website, such as it is ... http://rgharper.mvps.org/
> >> >> >> * HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Mtek" <jimlily2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:A16B3922-0C13-4851-B53B-BCED601DDE4C@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > How can I set up a workgroup on our network that I can
> >> >> >> > administer(remote)
> >> >> >> > from my admin domain workstation?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I would like to be able to have admin access as I do in the
> >> >> >> > domain.
> >> >> >> > But
> >> >> >> > still leave the workgroup/user not able to share/use domain
> >> >> >> > resources.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>



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