Re: file/printer sharing
From: Carey Holzman (uce_at_ftc.gov)
Date: 09/23/04
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 12:37:26 -0700
Steve,
The tips apply universally to all OSes. It does not hold the users hand,
step by step, but rather gets to the point on what needs to be done.
With regards to the firewall: The tips have always started by saying to
uinstall firewall software software and/or to disable the Windows XP
firewall. Recently, the tips were re-written and re-formated by a company to
make them easier to follow. Apparently, the firewall comments did not make
the transition and I was unaware of this until you just mentioned.
With regards to pinging: My tips have everything to do with resting the
network connection, which must be set up correctly for ping (or anything
else networking related) to work correctly.
You might be surprised that the people who ask for help here have the
ability to determine for themselves which solution will work for them. Heck,
they might as well try any solution anyone offers.
If someone follows my tips, which lately you seem to be on a campaign to
discourage, what possible harm will come to them?
Carey
"Steve Winograd [MVP]" <winograd@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:73o5l01semenl9k4q45h9iddagc0j6ubo2@4ax.com...
> In article <OGoyTfVoEHA.2920@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>, "Carey Holzman"
> <uce@ftc.gov> wrote:
>>>>> I have 2 computers PCA and PCB running win xp sp2. One is connected
>>>>> directly to a router, which is connected to a DSL modem. Another is
>>>>> connected using a wireless USB connector.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried to run the network setup wizard on both computers using the
>>>>> other->"This computer connects to the internet directly or through a
>>>>> network hun. Other computers on my network also connect to the
>>>>> internet
>>>>> directly or through a hub." option with same workgroup name, but I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> see anything in my network places. I also tried to add a network place
>>>>> "\\PCB\SharedDocs", but that doesn't connect either.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess the problem is one computer is not seeing the other computer.
>>>>> I
>>>>> can't ping eachother.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone please help me with this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Lane
>>>>
>>>>The first thing you need to be able to do, before you go any further, is
>>>>to
>>>>be able to ping one computer from the other.
>>>>
>>>>I recommend you follow Tip #1 on all PCs at
>>>>www.careyholzman.com/netfixes.htm
>>>>
>>>>Carey
>>>
>>>Carey, the steps in your Tip #1 don't apply to Windows XP, don't have
>>>anything to do with pinging one computer from another, and don't have
>>>anything to do with the problem that Lane reports.
>>>
>>>Lane, that Wizard option causes the Wizard to enable XP's Internet
>>>Connection Firewall, which blocks file and printer sharing.
>>>
>>>Tell the Wizard that the computers connect to the Internet through a
>>>residential gateway.
>>
>>Steve,
>>
>>My tips do, in fact, apply to Windows XP and do resolve many ping issues.
>>
>>Read my guestbook and see for yourself.
>>
>>Carey
>
> No, your tips don't apply.
>
> With a single exception, noted below, the network settings in Tip #1
> don't exist in Windows XP. They exist in Windows 95/98/Me, but not in
> Windows XP. Anyone who actually tries applying Tip #1 on a Windows XP
> computer can see that. Do you have a computer running Windows XP? If
> so, try Tip #1 and see. Let's look at each of your steps and see why
> they don't apply to Windows XP:
>
> 1. The patch is only for Windows Me.
> 2. There's no Network icon in Control Panel.
> 3. NetBEUI isn't supported in Windows XP. IPX/SPX has a
> different name.
> 4. There's no "Log on to Windows XP domain" setting.
> 5. There's no BINDINGS tab.
> 6. There's no BINDINGS tab or "Allow Binding to ATM" setting.
> 7. There's no "I want to enable NetBIOS over IPX/SPX" setting.
> 8. There's no Browse Master or LM Announce setting.
> 9. There's no Primary Network Logon.
> 10. There's no "File and Printer Sharing" button.
> 11. There's no Identification tab.
> 12. There's no Access Control tab.
> 13. There's no Sharing tab.
> 14. This step says it applies to Windows 95 and 98.
> 15. There's no Entire Network icon in My Network Places.
> 16. This is the only step that applies to Windows XP.
> 18-22. There's no NetCrawl registry key.
>
> Tip #1 doesn't have anything to do with pinging. Pinging uses only
> the TCP/IP protocol. It doesn't use any of the other network settings
> that Tip #1 says to check: IPX/SPX, File and Printer Sharing, Client
> for Microsoft Networks, bindings, sharing, workgroup names, access
> control, etc. None of those settings have any effect on pinging. If
> you think that they do, then you don't understand Windows networking.
>
> Tip #1 doesn't say anything about pinging. It doesn't mention
> firewalls, which are the most likely cause of pinging problems.
> --
> Best Wishes,
> Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)
>
> Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
> for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
> addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.
>
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