Re: Stupid Question #1

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From: Ron Lowe (ron-msng_at_{d.e.l.e.t.e.}lowe-family.me.uk)
Date: 06/09/04


Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2004 10:05:21 +0100


> But the MS KB article suggests otherwise, or implies at the least that
> without an active Guest user account, that authentication by a remote
> user can be troublesome.

Not true.
Disabling ( in the true sense ) the guest account will only cause
authentication trouble if SFS is in force.

> Unless I suppose the ACL reflects Group Guest as part of Group
> Everyone and not Guest as user to authenticate.
>
> I am less confused about this in practice than I am in trying to sort
> such notions as that under XP the 'Authenticated User' group is not
> automaticly part of Group Everyone. That make sense to me as well,
> but I still find the MS KB comment about user Guest difficult to
> reconcile in the whole schema.

IMHO the article is grossly oversimplistic to the point of being wrong.

> Your comments appreciated.
>

The everyone group includes just that - everyone.
It includes the group 'Guests', which in turn includes the user 'Guest'.

The group 'Everyone is the default share permission.

So for SFS, all users authenticate as Guest ( as long as the Guest account
has not been disabled ), and the default permissions for the share will
contain Everyone which in turn will include guest, and access is granted.

If you are not using SFS, then go ahead and:

0) Disable the Guest account.
1) Create user accounts;
2) Create groups for them if you wish;
3) Add them to the share ACL;
4) Remove 'Everyone' form the ACL, unless you want all users ( except the
disabled guest, obviously ) to access the share.

Re: use of Everyone group:
You may want to use the Everyone group in your share permissions, even with
Guest disabled.
As an example, I have a share on a server which I use for staff to make
files available to anyone on the network.
All the saff accounts belong to a group called 'Staff'.
So I have the share permissions set to
   Staff: Change permission ( read/write )
   Everyone: Read permission only.

( The guest account is disabled. )

Now, all users can read the files, but only the staff can change them.

-- 
Best Regards,
Ron Lowe
MS-MVP Windows Networking


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