Re: Mei Chan [MSFT]

_at_anonymous.com
Date: 03/02/04 

Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 23:22:39 -0500

americantechie,

Thanks for your interest, I'll reply in sections divided by ******

Fred

americantechie wrote:

> Hello Mei Chan,
>
> I have no clue whats going on here but I thought I would take a stab at it.
> Right offhand I would think the following is happening...
>
> 1. The file is flagged as non accessible because it is in use???
> 2. The file is temporarily flagged as read only???
>
> Quote:
> "If I put a file in the DESKTOP's Shared folder AND access it from the
> LAPTOP, then I cannot delete the desktop file at all unless I reboot the
> desktop."
>
> Question:
> You are able to delete the file after rebooting the desktop from which
> computer? The laptop or the desktop or both? I am assuming it would be
> from the desktop only.
> **************

> I can delete the file from the desktop (where I've always wanted to) - If I
> access it at all from the laptop, it cannot be deleted. The access by the
> laptop triggers this reaction on the desktop.

******************
There is not a lot of info to go with here but we can gather more information by
running some tests and asking more questions...

> Where is the file in question being shared?
> Does this happen with any shared file?
> Has this ever worked correctly?
>
> *************

It doesn't matter. I started with the Documents folder (This is the Shared
Documents folder on my desktop but it is named Documents). I then made a folder
on my D drive (second partition (Fat32) same result. Now I'm using a folder
called A-Share on the C- drive and still the same.

Yes this happens with all files. I'm using a simple text file for all my testing
but my virus signatures, some DB data files, JPEG images, etc. ALL of them
cannot be edited, renamed, or deleted UNTIL I reboot. I can rename, edit,
delete, etc AFTER reboot but BEFORE any access again by the laptop.

Has not worked correctly on the desktop. It does work correctly doing everything
on the laptop. By that I mean I can place a file, or folder, into the laptop
share and access it from the desktop. Then AFTER access by the desktop, I can
rename, edit, delete from EITHER the laptop OR the Desktop.
****************

> You might try sharing a file in a folder in a different location of the hard
> drive such as in the root of the C: drive, I would deffinately try this if
> the shared folder is in your "my documents" folder. If the problem goes
> away when you share at a different location then the problem may be with
> permissions on the shared folder.
> *******

This is answered in comments above- tried multiple folders on two partitions.

> *****************

> As an alternative to rebooting the computer to delete the file... try
> unplugging the desktop from the network or disable the network adaptor and
> then try deleting the file. If this works then for some reason the other
> computer is tying up the file.
> ******************

Did that too, disconnecting the laptop after access makes no difference at all

> ***************
> Other notes:
> Changing the file system should remove the possibility of a permissions
> problem however I am unaware of any method to change NTFS to FAT32 and if
> there is a way I would only do this as a very last resort as there is risk
> of data loss and it may not work anyways.
> ***********

I've read here in this NG that Partition Magic can do it although it is risky. I
would create an image file before attempting this, needless to say.

> ************
> You are correct, this is a difficult item to troubleshoot over a newsgroup
> as are most networking problems.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> John
>
> <Fred @anonymous.com> wrote in message
> news:4043D07D.88E1B34C@global2000.net...
> > Hello Mei Chan,
> >
> > Thanks for your interest.
> >
> > Using the laptop, I just tried to open the text file in the desktop share
> > folder and it opens but I can't edit the text or anything. I can copy the
> file
> > which is really what I wanted to do.
> >
> > I cannot delete the files (on the desktop) from either the laptop or the
> > desktop.
> >
> > Once again, if I do it the other way (file in laptop share) then I can
> delete,
> > edit, whatever.
> >
> > Thanks and hope this helps.
> >
> > Fred
> >
> >
> > "Mei Chan [MSFT]" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Fred,
> > >
> > > From your Laptop, can you create / edit your files on your Desktop's
> share?
> > > Is the problem specific with only deleting the files on the share? Can
> you
> > > delete your files from local machine itself (Desktop)?
> > >
> > > Mei
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights.
> > > ----------
> > >
> > > <Fred@anonymous.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4043B390.5CE90886@global2000.net...
> > > > Hi Mei Chan,
> > > >
> > > > I have posted my problem at least four times now with little or no
> > > > response on this newsgroup which is frustrating to say the least.
> > > >
> > > > I have WinXP Home on a Desktop and Laptop. They are networked using a
> > > > router and wireless card. Internet works fine.
> > > >
> > > > I can put a file in the LAPTOP's Shared folder and access it from the
> > > > DESKTOP - I can delete the laptop file from either PC.
> > > >
> > > > If I put a file in the DESKTOP's Shared folder AND access it from the
> > > > LAPTOP, then I cannot delete the desktop file at all unless I reboot
> the
> > > >
> > > > desktop. It appears that the access by the laptop changes something
> > > > drastically. I've tried shutting down explorer, no success - I have to
> > > > re-boot to delete the desktop files.
> > > >
> > > > SInce no one has offered a clue about this then I must have a real
> > > > unique problem. What if I try to convert my current NTFS file system
> to
> > > > FAT32? If this has been caused by "permissions" etc. under NTFS, will
> it
> > > > go away if I can convert to FAT32 using Partition Magic?
> > > >
> > > > Any reply will be sincerely appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Fred
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
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