Re: Stop-start video clips

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PapaJohn, I understand what you are saying here, but I think we may be
talking at cross purposes. I'm probably not explaining myself clearly
enough, and/or not using the right terminology.

Perhaps I should make the point here that most of the clips I have edited or
combined in MM are AOK and play smoothly on MP11.

It is only a few that are not. They are jerky ( choppy ??) and stop briefly
at frequent intervals while playing.

What I think is causing the stop-start , is that the CPU is running at 100%
when Media Player is PLAYING the movie, after it has been saved.

When I watch the CPU performance graph on Task Manager while a "good" clip
is playing, it shows that less than half the total capacity of the CPU is
being used.

But when I watch the same graph while a "bad" clip is playing, it shows a
flat line across the top of the graph, and a reading of 100%.

When I did this with a "marginal" clip, CPU usage would show at 95 -100 %
and while I cant be absolutely sure of this, it seemed to me that the pauses
on the screen coincided with the graph hitting the 100 %.

Now I know that my logic may well be wrong here, but this seemed to indicate
that
my CPU lacked the capacity to play those clips.

So what I have been trying to say is not that I think my machine lacks the
capacity to save the movie properly, but that it lacks capacity to play it
smoothly - in the format in which it has been saved.

What I am hoping is that if I save the movie in a different format (?), by
manually choosing a suitable setting, instead of "best quality", then I maybe
will get a movie that my machine can play smoothly.

Hope this makes more sense now.

Regards, Leo.




"PapaJohn" wrote:

Your CPU speed only effects how long it takes to save a movie. A 3 GHz CPU
will save it twice as fast as a 1.5 GHz one... but it'll save it equally
well. You don't need to wait for the next better computer.

Saving a movie isn't a real time process. The computer will take whatever
time it needs to get it completed.
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PapaJohn


"leo grayson" <leograyson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks for that PapaJohn - as I said in an earlier post, I'm very much a
beginner at all of this, and still have a lot to learn -

Including NOT to repeat a post until I'm sure it really hasn't gone
thru.
( Sorry about that )

So what this means is that until I upgrade my hardware, I will have to
find
a way of saving the clips in MM that is within the capabilities of my CPU.

Looks like I've got a bit more reading to do.

Cheers, Leo.


"PapaJohn" wrote:

CPU usage and memory usage are two different things... more RAM will add
to
your system's memory but do nothing for your CPU. People don't usually
upgrade a CPU, not until they move on to their next newer system.

My website's Problem Solving > Can't Save a Movie page has info about how
to
check your memory usage.
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PapaJohn


"leo grayson" <leograyson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Once again - Thanks John. I now believe that you were right when
you
suggested I need more RAM.
Something in one of your references triggered my memory to check a
handout
I
got from the basic course I did when I bought my PC.
It refers to the Task Manager (performance) display. I used it and
found
that while the problem clips were playing, the CPU was running at 100%
.
This would reduce to between 90 and 100% when they were played thru a
few
times.

So I checked the graph for a few different clips and came up with this
:-

While they were playing -

MPEG clips that had NOT been thru MM used about 10 -15% of CPU capacity
WMV clips that had NOT been thru MM used about 40 - 45%
MPEG clips that had been edited in MM used about 45 - 55%
WMV clips that had been edited in MM used about 40 - 50%

Movies that were made up by splicing a mix of BOTH types together =
100%.
( and no doubt needed more )

I tried increasing the Virtual memory, but that didn't help, so I guess
I
probably need more RAM, though I have not yet tried saving a movie
other
than
by using the automatic " Best Quality For My Computer" setting.

When I get a bit more spare time I will follow your second piece of
advice
&
try some of the other settings, to see if one of them will give me
reasonable
quality playback, at a rate that my CPU can handle, without having to
upgrade
it.

However, I'm already in the doghouse for spending too much time on this
at
the expense of other duties, so it could be a while.

I really appreciate your help on this - I have an answer to my problem
and
I've learned a quite a lot in the process.

Keep up the good work !!!

Best Regards, Leo.




"John Inzer" wrote:

leo grayson wrote:
John, thanks for your reply. In answer to your question, the clips
go in as MPEG's and/or WMV's and come out of MM as WMV's. If there
is a way to choose the format of the modified clips, I haven't
worked
it out yet. ( I'm very much a beginner ).

I will check out your suggestions over the next few days ( I can't
do
it right away ) , and I'll post the results when I've had the time
to
work my way through them and test the results.

Thanks & Regards, Leo.
====================================
In addition to the fact that resource issues are
more than likely at the heart of your skipping in
WMP issue...it's also possible that using MPEG
source files could be part of the problem.

Here are the steps for the save options in
Movie Maker:

To save as a .wmv movie file...
Type...Ctrl+P to open the Save Movie Wizard /
Choose...My Computer /
Next /
Enter a Name and a Save Location /
Next /
Tick...'Best Quality For My Computer'
Next/
Wait while the movie is saved /
Finish...

To save as an .avi movie file...
(and several other options)
Type...Ctrl+P to open the Save Movie Wizard /
Choose...My Computer /
Next /
Enter a Name and a Save Location /
Next /
Show More Choices /
Other Settings /
Open the drop window and choose...DV-AVI /
Next /
Wait while the movie is saved /
Finish...

Also, you may find it useful to use
a custom profile:

Movie Maker 2 - Saving
Movies - Custom WMV Profiles
http://tinyurl.com/s2vgu

Creating Custom Profiles
for Windows Movie Maker 2
http://tinyurl.com/cuny7


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