Re: Movie Maker expert joins The DV Show

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Oh come on John,
Everyone knows someone who is caught out tries to turn the topic of
conversation away from the problem he has, so why don't you stick to the
topic of conversation here?

I have not turned this conversation anway. I have repeatedly asked for you
to say sorry for calling me a liar, or give me facts which show I am.

You have done neither of these.

Rest in-line.

--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com


"John Kelly" <jk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:rFTBe.70679$G8.21517@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hello hughes,
>
> "Graham Hughes" <graham.hughes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23pYiWbJiFHA.3692@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> From the very first quote of mine you have taken,
>
> Again a LIE...I quoted the WHOLE MESSAGE9

You have mistaken what I wrote, I did not lie, and I am not saying you are
lieing. I purely used the first bit of my quote. Before you accuse me of
back peddling though, you can use my whole post if you like, it all has the
same meaning.
>>
>> "The big problem with the arguement is, people like Papajohn have their
>> web-sites, helping people for free, answer questions on the newsgroups,
>> charging for services etc....."
>>
>> I said people like Papajohn, I didn't say Papjohn, and I didn't have to
>> say Rehan if I didn't want to. I was giving a explanation. You called me
>> a liar and I gave you facts to back up my post.
>
> TOTAL DRIVEL...again an MVP trying to backpeddle...I said you were a
> LIAR and I can now see that you are trying to re-phrase your basic LIE to
> make you look as though you were not telling LIES

I have not rephrased anything, you quoted my post and I have also done the
same. How can I be lieing?
>>
>> If you wouldn't mind saying you are sorry for calling me a liar again, as
>> this is the third time I have had to ask you to apologise for making
>> remarks about me which I have been able to disprove.
>
> Sorry, LOLOL YOU ARE A LIAR...Got It ??? YOU ARE A LIAR and a fairly
> pitifulkk one at that....

When will you learn, to do this you need facts. I must have an apology from
you. Where above are any lies? Please show me at least one to back up this
latest onslaught to my good name.

>>
>> I am not talking about whether Rehan has made good or bad posts, or
>> whether you fell Papajohn is a liar, that's you trying to get out of the
>> problem you have gotten yourself into again, by calling me a liar, and
>> then having no proof for what you say about me, and not liking the fact I
>> can give you proof and facts to back up what I say.
>
> Now what are you talkng about????? Still trying to drag someone else
> in.....what a total fool you are...a bad one at that....

I am talking about your rudness and the fact you have called me a liar and
have nothing to back up this allegation. Now will you apologise.

>>
>> So, please produce the proof for all the accusations below, or apologise.
>
> The only proof that is needed is for the reader to look at your
> messages....you were caught out hughes, TOUGH

Where?

>
> Lets just remember where this started Eh...I and others say that the
> activities of he who you love so much are out of order...he uses his
> position to enhance his financial state. I add to that be showing that he
> is an amazing LIAR....much better at it than you I might add, but the
> problem all liars have is two fold, They have to have a very good memory
> and they have to be certain that no one can prove them wrong by accessing
> information that is easy to get at (in this case)
>
> In the case of pj we have a man who stumbled from one solution to
> another and eventually got a pattern of faults which he could attach a
> number of solutions to....MONKEYS can do that. Microsoft made him an
> MVP...this was in the early days of the MVP program and he was probably
> the only candidate around. He then had someone make him a website. There
> is no doubt in my mind that he did not make it....because of the apalling
> lack of knowledge he has in the past demonstrated.....I start to notice
> him when he started stating that HE had written two books...LIE at that
> time he had been helped by microsoft to create ONE book and he joined in
> as a junior partner with another author to create the second book....This
> by the way is a collection of "facts" from prior messages by papajohn....I
> am going to just Love It he he tries to withdraw those remarks (hint)
>
> He then progress's to CHARGING people for solving very basic
> problems.....At this point I should point at that in a recent mesage he
> tries to convince everyone that he has never advertised his services in
> here...another LIE !! His next step is to create a newsletter which he
> also advertises in here (dare him to denyy it) and he charges MONEY for
> it...again his statement that he does nothing commercial is in this
> newsgroup is a LIE
>
> During all of this he tells LIES to everyone by stating that he posts
> to 52 nrewsgroups on issues all relating to media....52 newsgroups ????
> Surely thats not right...So I check....it was either 7 or 8, I forget
> which...and out of thos it was 2 newsgroups that he mainly posted to and
> this newsgroup was the main one. Untill someone points out that this man
> is a blatant LIAR and that he is using those lies to bolster his position
> so that he can charge for "services" that the very large number of regular
> posters in here couls solve standing on their heads, this guy is ging to
> rip-off more and more people.
>
> Did it end their with the 52 newsgroups. NO. As I said in here to him
> just after the next phase of lies, I had inntended to let the matter
> drop.....but what did he do???? Its a scream...trully a SCREAM....he
> produces one of his sly messages stating that Microsoft have produced
> statistics showing he actually posts to 63 newsgroups...WHAT... SIXTY
> THREE !!!!!...and he actually posted a link to the stats.....
>
> I did a very quick analysis on those stats and used the inbuilt
> database functions within those stats to discover that almost everyone of
> these newsgroups he claimed to post into on a regular basis did in fact
> contain only ONE...thats ONE message from him. With respect to those ONE
> messages every one of them was a reply to a question that had been
> crossposted to a large number of newsgroups...and by replying to that
> message probably in ther movie maker newsgroup he caused his reply to
> appear in all those other newsgroups.
>
> When he discovered these stats he jumped in and shouted to the
> world...SEE I ACTUALLY POST IN 63 NEWSGROUPS...the man is a complete LIAR,
> A FRAUD...but its worse than that. He told a LIE (52 newsgroups) and fools
> like you hughes and loads of idiots most of whom were mvp's all backed him
> up...one of them publikly threatened that abuse aimed at me would continue
> untill such time as I stopped showing this man up as a LIAR stopped. We
> even had brown and eddy join in where possible all lending their weight to
> the onslaught.......and then pj follewd it up with the lie about 63
> newsgroups.
>
> So, pj claims to be a database expert LOL. one of those who supported
> him pointed him towards some stats and tell him ,"look you can show you
> posted to 63" and the expert in databases papajohn takes those stats and
> shouts it out over the roof tops...and idiots like you support him.
>
> The final dark responce from the liar was along the lines of, "I guess
> I LUCKED OUT" So there it is, an inadvertent admission.
>
> Where does that leave you hughes ?????

This leaves me wondering why you have written all of this. I have asked for
an apology for you calling me a liar. I am only interseted in the claims you
have made against me, not those you have made against anyone else.

Please give back up your allegations with proof. Just in case you have
forgotten what proof you need to give, as I haven't even though you are
trying to steer the conversation away from it. It is proof that I am Under
somebodies control.

Graham



>
> You want an apology.....LOLOLOLOLOL
>
> With regard to what you tried to turn this thread into....your still in
> the childrens play area.
>
> John Kelly
> www.the-kellys.org
>
>


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