Re: Movie Maker expert joins The DV Show

>From the very first quote of mine you have taken,

"The big problem with the arguement is, people like Papajohn have their
web-sites, helping people for free, answer questions on the newsgroups,
charging for services etc....."

I said people like Papajohn, I didn't say Papjohn, and I didn't have to say
Rehan if I didn't want to. I was giving a explanation. You called me a liar
and I gave you facts to back up my post.

If you wouldn't mind saying you are sorry for calling me a liar again, as
this is the third time I have had to ask you to apologise for making remarks
about me which I have been able to disprove.

I am not talking about whether Rehan has made good or bad posts, or whether
you fell Papajohn is a liar, that's you trying to get out of the problem you
have gotten yourself into again, by calling me a liar, and then having no
proof for what you say about me, and not liking the fact I can give you
proof and facts to back up what I say.

So, please produce the proof for all the accusations below, or apologise.

Graham


--
Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com


"John Kelly" <jk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:4WuBe.69668$G8.1682@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> The following is a reply to an MVP who has required an answer to his
> remarks....Microsoft please note that this is yet another of papajohns
> pals stiring up as much muck as possible
>
> mr hughes....Show us all where you have used the word rehan in the
> following
>
> The big problem with the arguement is, people like Papajohn have their
> web-sites, helping people for free, answer questions on the newsgroups,
> charging for services etc.....
> Then along come MS, and make you an MVP, Oooops, you have to close your
> web-site down and stop earning money because you've been made an MVP, the
> reason you were made an MVP was because this was what you
> did???????????????????
> I don't see Papajohn making anyone buy any goods, services etc, they can
> visit the site and use hundreds of pages for free, and if they want a
> little
> extra then they can pay for it, but it's up to them, it's quite clear what
> is free and what isn't.
> If his first page said pay me $5 to enter I'd agree with you, but I'm
> afraid
> we are always going to disagree on this one.
>
> You are a yes man, you are telling lies and to get out of that you are now
> telling more lies by way of suggesting you were talking about the instant
> expert called rehan...a person who knows an awfull lot about COM objects,
> how to make himself look like a pratt together with a whole bunch of other
> things.....16:9 ratio was a scream...remember.
>
> So Mr Liar...where does it say REHAN in the above text. Do you want me to
> outline the glories of REHAN...how the only way he could stand up to an
> argument was to go fetch friends from mvps (a clear indication that his
> only intent was to start a flame war again)...would you like me to talk
> about his tutoring by a number of others so that he could rise to the
> dissy depths of mvp? Personaly, I think its absolutely marvelous that
> Microsoft made him an MVP....you see I had no idea how good you were, Its
> no good using papajohn as a measure because he is forever telling lies, so
> that was no good...but you, you used to say as little as possible....now I
> know why...if rehan qualifies as an mvp, remembering what a complete lack
> of knowledge he posses of his own accord, where does that leave you???? My
> belief that the MVP system is largely a waste of time is confirmed. The
> true experts, some of which are MVP's, are those who give advice without
> the need to tell Lies or come out with expressions like "Lucked Out"...one
> of PJ's favourite remarks when he is again shown to be wrong
>
> To continue...do you really want me to reply to every grandious sweeping
> over bloated self opinionated "YES MAN" comment from you ???? If yes, do
> please continue making prevocative statements that demand a response, I
> will be only to happy to grant what an MVP wants in a Microsoft newsgroup.
>
> Mr Hughes, when I have something to apologies for I will do so. Allow me
> to repeat, You are a fool, and their is growing support for that belief.
> You are a yes man who has involved himself in a discussion about the LIAR
> papajohn. If you do not like the replies you are gettiong can I suggest
> once more that you SHUT UP.
>
> The underlying remarks from many pewople of whom only a few post their
> comments in here is that Papajohn is a less than desirable person with an
> eye for the main chance and who has since he started his website and
> AFTERWARDS become an MVP (lol) started charging for the very advice he is
> supposed to give FREE...and, it has been demonstrated on many occasions
> that he is a LIAR...it has also been demonstrated that he then told
> further LIES to try and convince everyone that his first LIES were in fact
> the truth....its so over the top its funny....and evcery time you try to
> defend him you can expect to get the type of reply you have been
> getting....
>
> So TOUGH Mr hughes...and as I said, you too have now become a
> LIAR...Papajohn does NOT help people for free, he charges, Papajohn steels
> the help given by others and relishes making it known that he has put that
> advice on his website and not given any acknowledgement of its true
> origin....on top of that he has admitted a number of times that he does
> not have a single clue about whether the advice is any good or not and on
> at least one occasion told the person suffering from the results of that
> advice the equivelant of "Tough Luck Pal"
>
> So, go on and defend him as much as you like, you have already taken the
> first step towards guilty by association...you were doing so much better
> when you kept your mouth shut..such a pity.
>
> John Kelly
> www.the-kellys.org
>
> Will always answer an MVP's questions, well you have to don't you...after
> all, they ARE the Professionals LOL
> "Graham Hughes" <graham.hughes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eCi%23fmHiFHA.576@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> OK John,
>> Facts.
>> Rehan.
>> Has a web-site, made and charged for goods.
>> He was made an MVP this year.
>>
>> Now do I get an apology from you, I doubt it, as I'm still waiting from
>> the last time I showed you that the statements you made about me were
>> wrong. I have not made any wild flourishes, there has been no
>> chronological change, I have not started telling lies,
>>
>> So Apologise please.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>> --
>> Graham Hughes
>> MVP Digital Media
>> www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
>> www.dvds2treasure.com
>> www.simplydv.com
>>
>>
>> "John Kelly" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:e4NVdGGiFHA.2152@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> An interesting change in chronology...only an MVP could make...If you
>>> are going to make wild flourishes, do at least try to base them on
>>> facts...better still shut up, people had more respect for you before you
>>> opened that mouth of yours.
>>>
>>> This reply was created because another MVP (lol) has started telling
>>> lies.
>>>
>>> John Kely
>>> www.the-kellys.org
>>>
>>> Liars, Instant Experts and those who support them = ZERO
>>>
>>> "Graham Hughes" <graham.hughes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:Ob3PdCGiFHA.392@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> The big problem with the arguement is, people like Papajohn have their
>>>> web-sites, helping people for free, answer questions on the newsgroups,
>>>> charging for services etc.....
>>>> Then along come MS, and make you an MVP, Oooops, you have to close your
>>>> web-site down and stop earning money because you've been made an MVP,
>>>> the reason you were made an MVP was because this was what you
>>>> did???????????????????
>>>> I don't see Papajohn making anyone buy any goods, services etc, they
>>>> can visit the site and use hundreds of pages for free, and if they want
>>>> a little extra then they can pay for it, but it's up to them, it's
>>>> quite clear what is free and what isn't.
>>>> If his first page said pay me $5 to enter I'd agree with you, but I'm
>>>> afraid we are always going to disagree on this one.
>>>>
>>>> Graham
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Graham Hughes
>>>> MVP Digital Media
>>>> www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
>>>> www.dvds2treasure.com
>>>> www.simplydv.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Al Stu" <NOYB@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:u$A7LH9hFHA.576@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Nothing wrong with anybody having a job and getting paid for it. In
>>>>> fact I'd encourage it. But for an MS-MVP to use MS NG's for the
>>>>> purpose of marketing their own business flys in the face of what NG
>>>>> are. Especially when they plagiarize what others post in the NG's for
>>>>> that purpose as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Graham Hughes" <graham.hughes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uh8kSy7hFHA.2152@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Well we all know you had a job and got paid for it, you tell us often
>>>>>> enough, so what's wrong with PJ having a job and getting paid for it?
>>>>>> I shouldn't think there are that many on state benefit who sit here
>>>>>> and answer questions....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More importantly.
>>>>>> I'd be interested to know under whose control I am, please tell me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Graham Hughes
>>>>>> MVP Digital Media
>>>>>> www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
>>>>>> www.dvds2treasure.com
>>>>>> www.simplydv.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "John Kelly" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:uc7o4S7hFHA.2904@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ONLY AN MVP under control could come out with that one
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank God for the fun moments of life, it would be a terrible drag
>>>>>>> if we had to listen for long to that kind of drivel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John Kelly
>>>>>>> www.the-kellys.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No advantage pecuniary or otherwise is desired when I offer help
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Graham Hughes" <graham.hughes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:eJedG56hFHA.1968@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>I assume then Al you do not have a job which pays you money? You go
>>>>>>>>out at 9 and come home at 5, because you feel the need to do it for
>>>>>>>>free? Odd world in which you live in.........
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Graham Hughes
>>>>>>>> MVP Digital Media
>>>>>>>> www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
>>>>>>>> www.dvds2treasure.com
>>>>>>>> www.simplydv.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ditto.. and then uses his "MVP" to drive people to his FOR PROFIT
>>>>>>>>> website. I find it distasteful and abuse of "MVP".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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