Re: MM doesn't accept *.mp4 Videos - although codec is installed!
- From: "PapaJohn \(MVP\)" <PapaJohn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 03:04:42 -0400
Very interesting write up James...
Where there is video and people who use Movie Maker, there will be a desire
to edit the video, no matter how short the clip or how low the quality...
the expanding use of still cameras and cell phones with video features will
continue.
A five second clip from a still camera in MP4 format might make the perfect
intro, middle or ending to a long movie... mixing all the inputs together is
what the computer lets us do... to me there's the need to continue to help
users know how to do any needed conversions.
Thanks a lot... I wonder if iMovie handles them without conversion.
--
PapaJohn
Movie Maker 2 and Photo Story 3 website - http://www.papajohn.org
"James" <James@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Interesting conversation about .MP4 files. John Kelly and PapaJohn are
> much
> smarter than me on this stuff... but here's my 2 cents (or a buck-50 if
> you
> read this whole thread:).
>
> .MP4 is essentially an Apple Quicktime format. If you want to edit .MP4
> files (without messy format conversion)... you will need a Mac. Yes you
> can
> play .MP4 videos on other media players... but only Quicktime and Apple
> editing programs can fully manipulate those videos.
>
> MPEG-4 is a broad standard with many flavors. It's important to know that
> only some MPEG-4 videos use the .MP4 file extension (also described as
> container format).
>
> Microsoft has an mpeg-4 codec format (uses .ASF), Real Networks has one
> (.RM), DivX uses mpeg-4 with .AVI and .DIVX, so does On2, and finally...
> the
> king of MPEG-4 (Apple) uses .MOV and .MP4 extension for virtually the same
> codec.
>
> What does all this mean to you... not much, just background.
>
> The engineers over at Sanyo never intended you to edit those movies with
> Movie Maker (or any other video editing software). I know, I had many
> meetings with Panasonic and Samsung about the same issue.
>
> The product marketing types at Sanyo (and others selling tiny flash-card
> camcorders) are pushing a concept called "shoot-n-share." The whole idea
> is
> to skip video editing, just shoot video clips and import the clips to your
> PC
> as you would JPEG photos, then share in email or online.
>
> The shoot-n-share concept is gaining popularity outside the U.S., where
> household PC penetration is much lower. But in the great US-of-A we're
> spoiled by having the most powerful PCs (and most per household) in the
> world... so video editing is fast becoming mainstream here. Ever wonder
> why
> every digital still camera has a video mode, but nobody ever uses it? In
> the
> global market, people like the 30 second video clips. But here most people
> never use the video option because the quality is horrible when compared
> to
> DV-AVI, and way too short. Thus they become "throw-away" videos.
>
> Sanyo must have paid a license to Apple for the MPEG-4 codec and probably
> the Quicktime player logo is even on the box. They may have even included
> a
> really crappy one-off Sanyo video editing app. Nothing you would ever use.
>
> So why .MP4 over other formats?
> The conversation over at Sanyo went something like this 3 years ago:
> Engineers said "hey, we want to use MPEG-4 codec from Apple because 1)
> it's a
> semi-open standard, 2) it's cheap to license, 3) they are CE guys so they
> are
> more familiar with MPEG formats and Quicktime, 4) MPEG-4 looks really good
> at
> small sizes, and 5) they get to use a cheaper chip in the camcorder
> (Windows
> Media compression is more processor intensive, especially when using the
> wmv9
> codec, so it takes a much more expensive chip).
>
> Then the marketing guys said: sounds good to us. nobody will really edit
> these videos... only designed for playback and sharing. We'll include the
> Quicktime Player in the box and that's that.
>
> Anyway, maybe this is all interesting but useless information.
>
> I'm personally really interested in the flash-based Camcorders... the
> concept is pretty cool. But for some reason the engineers (Sanyo,
> Panasonic,
> Samsung, others) are absultely clueless when it comes to format decisions.
> At
> least your camcorder uses a standard format like MP4... I've had other
> Flash
> Camcorders that used a proprietary format that required a custom media
> player
> included to play.
>
> It would be great if the CE engineers in Japan would take a harder look at
> WMV or ASF format for the Flash Camcorders.
>
> Last thought... do you know about Neptune.com for online video sharing? I
> work for Neptune, and the Mediashare service accepts .MP4 files. You might
> want to go to Neptune.com, sign up for a free trial, then use the Easy
> Upload
> feature to upload .MP4 videos into Quicktime albums. Windows Media and
> Quicktime play equally well on Neptune... we get tons of .MP4 files from
> the
> new Apple iMovie software.
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> "ingobert" wrote:
>
>> SANYO XACTI C4
.
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