Re: Papajohn, Responsibility and LIES !!!

From: Barry L. Wallis (KRQSAOQMNTXB_at_spammotel.com)
Date: 01/02/05 

Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 23:04:31 -0800

Just so you know, John Kelly, I too seem to be banned. As far as I know
I have had no interaction with you and do not know any reason for it
(unless you've banned the Cox.net subnet I am on).

- Barry

John Kelly wrote:
> Hello one and all,
>
> It has been brought to my attention that papajohn has been spreading lies in a
> discussion group about me that I am not a member of.
>
> He Said...
>
> Hi again Weave,
> just a followup note so you and others know enough about the situation when you
> take JK up on his free hosting offer.
> It's not a new issue.... goes back a long time. No-one has a grudge against or
> is spatting with him.... he just chooses to blacklist some of us for whatever
> his personal reasons are.
> His offer is great and might suit your needs and others... but be aware that I
> and others in this situation would like to view your videos but can't. If you
> get fewer comments when posting them there, you'll know why.
>
> To set the record straight. Because of his past actions and those of a small
> group of MVP's (I often refer to them as his bully boys) He and those bully
> boys are permanently banned from accessing my web site. Out of Decembers 1,327
> UNIQUE visitors only 6 individuals were banned, others were however added to
> the banned list during the month...this because it is probably someone like
> papajohn (I genuinly do not think he is clever enough to do it though) who have
> been using spoof IP address's. There were a lot of the in December
>
> The original reason paojon was banned was because I simply did not want him in
> my site this was because of his basic attitude to someone who would not respond
> the way HE wanted when he sent out one of his "back chanel" private emails, but
> more recently that position has been reinforced because it is clear he has no
> regard for those he helps....this came to stark notice when one of his users
> took advice from his website and ended up in trouble. Papajohn was placed in a
> position where he had to admit no knowledge on the procedure involved and
> declined to help that person any further....The truth now seems to be that he
> uses his title of MVP to re-enforce a huge misconception that he is an Expert
> with regard to the use of a computer. Although there have been many occasions
> in the last year where it has been adequately demonstrated that his knowledge
> was largely lacking, none have been so stark as these recent events. He uses
> his position and web site to encourage ordinary users to purchase one of his
> books. He refers to his website as being a "personal" site, when it is clearly
> commercial. I don't know whether that description and the laws of the USA have
> any baring on this or not. It will be interesting to find out I must say....tax
> laws...decleration of income sources etc etc....
>
> Papajohns web site contains a huge amount of information that suggests a "fix"
> for some problem...remember that the information given is from people who came
> to find help themselves. The information is NOT provided by peoplejohn he
> simply copies what others have said....some of the information for the wrong
> reasons provides a solution Other information their consists of opinions and no
> fact at all, to those who have a little more than a passing interest in the
> subject the advice offered is enough to make you cringe. The final category of
> information is just downright dangerous, and for the example given earlier was
> totally wrong and had the potential to cause that user the complete loss of his
> system working again until a professional charged him for the service of
> restoring the system.
>
> With respect to posting material created by others...this is allowed in the USA
> (they were presured into accepting a uniform approach some years
> back)...however....it is ONLY alowed if it is NOT FOR PROFIT.....Now as all of
> paojohns information seems to have been aquired from people like me and the
> many other good posters in here, and, as he is using that information to
> bolster his position and as a result promote his commercial enterpise...making
> money out of YOU it would seem that he is in breech of the unifying copyright
> laws now in force in his country as well as most other countries.
>
> Finally, as this mvp popejohn has a financial interest rather than an interest
> in helping others to learn how to use their computer, my original reasons have
> transformed into giving him no help what so ever in increasing the size of his
> bank balance...but I can suggest a range of books that would help him out with
> things like using Outlook Express (yes seriously), using the Internet (No, I am
> not joking) and anything else remotely connected with a computer....they are
> called The Idiots Guide to.....By the way, this man claims to be a database
> expert, I seriously doubt that
>
> I don't know if its true....I am told that he now intends to charge for his
> newsletters. Microsoft...its time this man was GONE His continual attempts to
> direct people to HIS website where they receive inducements to BUY HIS BOOKS
> must come to an end
>
> In the meantime, every time he tells a lie (claims that he posts to 52
> newsgroups) I will post a correction, every time he basically laughs at a user
> who ends up in a mess because of advice taken from his website I will expose it
> for what it is...a lack of responsibility and knowledge
>
> Why am I posting this message??? read his message copied above and ask
> yourself, do you think he gave a proper account??