Re: Jonathans' sig.



Copying and passing the contents off as your own is exactly the same
regardless of whether it be from a website or usernet. As far as i am aware
there is not distinction in copyright law. Copying and passing off as your
own work something that has been created by someone else is breach of
copyright, period!

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"Mac" <mac@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Copying from a website is not the same as copying usenet posts...

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Usenet too. And yes written down is typed as well.
Thousands of my posts are scattered on Usenet but, in most cases, i am
cited as the author. I have no problem with that, because i have posted a
reply in good faith to help other user's. Some people dislike their prose
being scattered to the four winds of cyber space that is their
prerogative. IP numbers are easily traced anyway and all newgroups keep
records of where the post has been sent from etc, so with a little bit of
work the culprit can be found.

A recent incident actually comes to mind whereby, while checking my
website statistics, i came across a site i hadn't seen before. Upon
investigating further the link took me to a website that specialised in
Windows XP help and support. The site was well laid out and had some
useful tips. I then noticed a Windows XP faq link. Well i like to know
what information other sites are giving out, if only to make sure i am up
to date on my own website. Imagine the surprise when i clicked on the
link and found 125 pages of my own website 'pasted' into this website.
The only thing missing was my website masthead. The guy hadn't even
linked the page to my site, he had simply copied the whole lot and pasted
into his site. Now if that isn't copyright infringement i don't know what
is. A quick cease and desist notice to the guy in question and a copy to
his web hosting company followed by a threat of legal action soon closed
him down.

As i've said newsgroup posts don't bother me (unless they are libellous).
It simply depends upon where your priorities lie.


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"Mac" <mac@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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On Usenet too? I don't think so...

"John Barnett MVP" <freelanceit@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Legally anything that it written down is copyright, even your post.
There is nothing specific that you have to do to make it copyright.
Okay add the copyright symbol if you like but it doesn't make a lot of
difference.

Copyright actually swings into action when someone deliberately copies
your words and 'passes them off' as their own. Quoting someone is
rather different. So long as the quote is no more than 10 percent of
the initial material and is enclosed in quotes and the copyright owner
acknowledged then that is fine.


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John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
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kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this post. The Author shall not be liable for
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of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed
in this post..



"Mac" <mac@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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How does one copyright all or any posts? Come on - you're a very great
source of help...but your sig is just getting too silly...

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