Re: Jonathan Kay--WindowsXP Messenger Support for non-UPnP Routers
- From: "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2005 22:43:26 -0700
Greetings,
As far as I know, there are no plans to add this into Windows Messenger.
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"Robert Edmonds" <redmonds@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Jonathan,
>
>
> With regard to your statement about support for non-UPnP
> routers being far better in MSN Messenger than WindowsXP Messenger, I found this
> old post by John Holmes...
>
> ----------------------------
>
> John Holmes [MSFT] Jun 11 2003, 2:12 pm
>
> Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger
> From: "John Holmes [MSFT]" <jhol...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> - Find messages by this author
> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 11:11:48 -0700
> Local: Wed, Jun 11 2003 2:11 pm
> Subject: Re: Messenger questions for John Holmes.
>
> NATs present quite a bit of trouble in establishing a peer to peer
> connection. If the NAT is not UPnP capable, I use a protocol that looks a
> good bit like STUN to traverse the NAT. This allows us to get it right most
> of the time.
>
> What makes matters worse though is that the user can't do anything about it
> by manually opening ports. This is for a number of reasons: first, we don't
> actually control the SIP signaling that sets up the a/v call. Inside these
> SIP packets is embedded your IP address and port that will be used for
> media. But until recently (our v6) we haven't had the ability to specify an
> external (public) IP and port to use for the call.
>
> Now in v6, we do have that ability and are traversing many more devices than
> we used to. I'm glad to hear that it's working better for you than previous
> versions.
>
> [snip]..
>
> John Holmes
> Developer, MSN Messenger
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Apparently MSN Messenger has incorporated this STUN-like protocol
> and is successful in transversing non-UPnP routers. For those of us who
> prefer to use WindowsXP Messenger and must work with non-UPnP
> routers, can we look forward to this support being included in
> a future version of WindowsXP Messenger? I am currently
> using Version 5.1.0680.
>
> Thanks,
>
> R Edmonds
>
>
> ------------------------
>
> [Snip]...
>
> Hi,
>
> You'll see this because MSN Messenger has far better support for non-UPnP routers and it's
> still using a protocol which is compatible with Windows Messenger so it works.
>
> If you send out an invitation with Windows Messenger and don't have a UPnP router, it
> simply
> will not work period.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Messenger/MSN Messenger
> Associate Expert
>
>
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