Re: Jonathan, can you address these?
From: Greg Petrowich (anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 01/15/05
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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 16:03:31 -0800
Any Jonathan is fine with me, I just read that the other
Jonathan seems to know quite a bit, so I hope he'll chime
in.
To bring this into context there are four people in
different locations with different ISP's that I am
testing with. Three of us have DSL and routers (two
Linksys and one Belken) One of us has cable modem and no
router. Nearly all of these settings have been tried on
all four, but sometimes a test falls through the cracks.
I guess I wouldn't make a good scientist.
The big one for me is that neither messeneger will do
audio and video even when we bypass routers (which should
eliminate UPnP on the routers and NAT on the router. I
don't understand how NAT works on direct DSL, but I
thought I was getting a true IP address when I log
directly into the DSL modem.
Odly enough, as I say, we have been able to use Yahoo
msgr (very poor audio) even *through* the routers which
means the cameras, sound cards, and to some extent the
routers work correctly. I presume that Yahoo may use
different ports, but forwarding must be taking place for
those to work.
I have tried Net Meeting and it won't work either. I
don't think I tried all of the tests with it (UPnp, Qos,
Firewall, etc) but At one point the two of us were
plugged into the same router and Net Meeting wouldn't
work using local IP addresses.
It feels like the IP providers changed something?,
because previously I used the exact same router, with Win
Msg 5.0 and got flawless audio/video to the person with
the cable modem and one of the DSL sites (although only
when she plugged directly into the modem, bypassing the
Belken router which made me think that we didn't have
that one set up.)
Now as I say, none of us can connect with anything other
than Video on MSN Messenger 6.2 (very good video - even
through routers) and Yahoo.
Haven't tried Dialer yet. Didn't even know what that was?
Will look into it.
Still open to more sugestions.
>-----Original Message-----
>hope you don't mind me answering. even though i am not
the Jonathan you
>are seeking, my name is also Jonathan, and i was
impressed with all the
>alternatives you tried (e.g. change this, remove that,
etc.). some
>people try nothing on their own, before coming here to
complain.
>
>i have seen many people come here with this specific
problem, but for
>many other people it is not a problem, so maybe it is
related to the
>interaction between the hardware/drivers and SP2. why
did it work fine
>before SP2, i don't know, but here's something else to
try, that might
>narrow down / rule out some possibilities.
>
>try using audio/video with 2 other programs built into
Windows. run
>NetMeeting (by typing conf in a Run box), and
see if audio
>and/or video will work. after that, run Dialer (by
typing dialer
> in a Run box), and see if audio and/or video will
work. you will
>have to know your friends' IP address to make the
connection, because
>there is no Contact List to double-click on to auto-
connect.
>
>how will this help ? if Dialer and NetMeeting also
fail, then i would
>think the problem is unrelated to SP2, and more related
to the drivers
>not getting along with SP2. if NetMeeting or Dialer
work fine, then i
>would think the problem is not related to drivers or
hardware, but more
>related to SP2 or the interaction between SP2 and
Win/MSN Messenger.
>
>if you try this, i sure would like to know what happens.
>sorry this is not a magic bullet to solve everybody's
problem.
>i just hope it narrows down / rules out some
possibilities.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Greg Petrowich wrote:
>> Jonathan, I moved this here because I was invading
>> somebody else's thread previously.
>>
>> Prior to SP2 I was able to connect video and audio
with
>> several friends using Windows Messenger, my linksys
>> router, my old non-configurable (to my knowledge) DSL
>> modem and Windows XP.
>>
>> I am using the Linksys BEFW11S4 version 2.1. I believe
I
>> have the most current Firmware version 1.45.10. There
is
>> a UPnP setting, and it is turned on.
>>
>> For some reason, I can no longer get audio or video
with
>> Windows Messenger 5.1 (both friends using the same
>> version). I can get video but no audio with MSN 6.2
(both
>> using same version. I can get both audio and video on
>> Yahoo messenger but both are bad (chalked up to Yahoo
not
>> connection:)
>>
>> Do you have any idea whether the Linksys firmware
1.45.1
>> is truly UPnP as it says it is?
>>
>> I have connected my PC directly into my DSL modem and
had
>> my friend do the same and it still does not work.
>>
>> I have turned off QoS on both computers and no
difference.
>>
>> I have turned off the Widows Firewall and no help.
When
>> on, the firewall is configured to allow messenger
through
>> however.
>>
>> Should I turn off UPnP on the router and forward the
>> ports in your suggestion?
>>
>> Odly my messenger worked so perfectly for nearly a
year,
>> and now I can not connect with anybody. It seems odd
that
>> with so many people having this problem, there aren't
any
>> clear answers.
>>
>> To sum up
>>
>> Dell Latitude X300
>> WinXP SP2
>> Firewall on, but passing Win Messenger and MSN
>> QoS off
>> UPnp on Win XP On
>>
>> Linksys BEFW11S4 version 2.1 firmware 1.45.10
>> UPnP On
>> PPoE DSL Connection
>>
>> Windows Messenger version 5.1
>> MSN Messenger version 6.2
>>
>> I would be grateful for any help you can offer.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Greg P.
>.
>
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