Re: J. Kay. Re: Your Web Page

From: Mackenrick (Mackenrick_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 01/13/05 

Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 21:23:03 -0800

Jonathan, First... thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.
Learning that not all the information applies to WinXP SP2 was a help. Your
information about some routers having UPnP but that they are not always
working or compatable makes sense too.

I also understand that because of variations in computer hardware and
software, there are always going to be a small number of computers that
simply will not be able to run some programs.

You also suggested I should make sure that the built-in NAT isn't turned on
for my DSL modem and I should put it into "Bridge" mode. I didn't even know
I could change any setting on my DSL Modem and haven't a clue how to do it.
Currently in my "Network Connections", under "Network Bridge", I have a
Network Bridge with a device name of Mac Bridge Miniport. This is where I
change any WinXp Firewall settings. Does this mean my DSL Moden is already
set to "bridge" mode? If not, how do I change it?

Thanks again for all your help, MacKenrick

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote:

> Greetings,
>
> Well, just so you know, the information there is nearly 3 years old now, so I'll respond
> in-line here.
>
> "Mackenrick" <Mackenrick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> > Jonathan, I have several questions about your "Solve ID" answers #16 and
> > #17 on your Messenger web page.
> >
> > I'm using WinXP SP2 and a Linksys BEFSR41 Router through a Westell Wirespeed
> > DSL modem and SBC-Yahoo ISP. There are three computers connected to this
> > home network. I am unable to make any connection using Win Messenger and
> > cannot do a video conference using MSN Messenger unless I disable my XP
> > Firewall and put my router into DMZ. Even then, I can't get audio. (I have
> > enabled all UPnP in Win XP and have enabled UPnP in the Linksys router).
>
> > #1. Does the below listed information only apply to WIN Messenger or can it
> > be also used for MSN Messenger?
> The UPnP requirement partially is necessary for MSN Messenger functions, the "ports" listed
> here are even less significant though.
>
> > #2. If I've disable my WinXP firewall and put my router in DMZ, will doing
> > any of the below help me to get either WIN or MSN Messenger running?
> Probably not, I'd suggest you leave the DMZ off on the router, and leave the XP firewall off.
>
> > #3. Why is it necessary to do "Solve ID: 16" in the Windows Firewall
> > settings, if the Windows Firewall already has an active exception for MSN and
> > WIN Messenger?
> It didn't in 2002 ;) and more specifically, didn't until SP2 launched.
>
> > #4. Do I also need to open the 5004-65535 UDP ports and the listed TCP ports
> > in my router?
> No, this is UPnP's job (and manually doing it won't help).
>
> However, the first thing you have to make sure about is that your router is using the latest
> firmware from Linksys. Linksys has been notorious with firmware versions where UPnP did not
> work (period) or did not work correctly.
>
> Secondly, in your DSL modem, make sure that the built-in NAT isn't turned on (there's
> probably an option to put it into "Bridge" mode -- do so).
>
> After this, reboot everything (if you change the DSL modem settings, turn the router off and
> back on as well) and then try again. One nice little function of MSN Messenger is that you
> can click the Tools menu, then Options, then Connection tab and it will tell you your UPnP
> status near the bottom part of the dialog.
> ____________________________________________
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> Associate Expert
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/
> Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> All posts unless otherwise specified are (c) 2004 Jonathan Kay.
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>
>
>
>

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